No-Fap in relationships

[bruf3n]

Hello everyone. Does actual sex influence no fap, or to put it better, does too much sex have the same effects of too much porn/fapping? And does it break the no-fap streak?

Drop your thoughts, looking forward to see what you guys think of this.

 

[derby1]

Let me give you my view.

if i fap/porn during relationships, my unit is softer, and a woman arouses me for around 10 minutes, obviously this is no good(women are huge gossips)

However if i go full on nofap for over 2 weeks then get with a woman, my unit is much bigger, erection stays up, and even the most mediocre chic arouses the hell out of me.

its a great feeling nofap

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Obviously sex and porn are different... but they are active in the same region of the brain. We actually have a dedicated dopamine circuit just for sex/precreation. Porn tricks our brains into thinking it's sex...but it's infinitely more harmful.

Having sex DOES NOT break a streak. However, it can make you more likely to want to relapse with porn. Having lots of sex with a variety of women surely increases your testostorone and libido, making it harder to avoid porn in the long run. But it can be done.

Let me give you my view.

if i fap/porn during relationships, my unit is softer, and a woman arouses me for around 10 minutes, obviously this is no good(women are huge gossips)

However if i go full on nofap for over 2 weeks then get with a woman, my unit is much bigger, erection stays up, and even the most mediocre chic arouses the hell out of me.

its a great feeling nofap

I can go months without porn/fapping and feel no different, for better or worse. I'm appalled at the results some people can get from it.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

It doesn't make any difference to me...I bring the thunder no matter what I do. If anything it ends up making me last longer.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Neither poster has answered his question. Read it again folks

 

[derby1]

Neither poster has answered his question. Read it again folks

I gave my view that totally abstaining from porn, and death grip, gives me magnificent arousal and erection levels whenever i need them.

If i watch porn and fap , he behaves noticeably weaker for a good week later

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Hello everyone. Does actual sex influence no fap, or to put it better, does too much sex have the same effects of too much porn/fapping? And does it break the no-fap streak?

Drop your thoughts, looking forward to see what you guys think of this.

No.

 

[Georgepithyou]

If your having actual sex , why do you even need to fap?

 

[SW15]

I don't think most men have to worry about too much sex. Too much sex with no porn and no fap won't affect dopamine release and erection quality likely too much porn and fap. It's easy to sit around one's home all day and watch porn and fap. That's not likely to happen with real life sex. Men can excessively engage in porn/fap for an unending duration, whereas sex frequency will change.

Sex is way better for testosterone. There's also less need to porn and fap if you're having regular sex in a relationship.

If you're not in a relationship and having sex with multiple women, that has the potential to be even more exciting.

 

[SW15]

Agree fapping and real secs give 2 totally different bio chemical and energy results. Good take on that.

Yes. Let's do a quick example. A week in the life of 3 men.

Man 1: Not in a relationship. Few, if any prospects. Watches porn on all 7 days in the week and faps to completion 17 times during the week.

Man 2: In a relationship with same woman for 1 year. She's "cute". Almost no man would rate her below a 5, and most men would rate her in the 6-7 range. She's typical height (around 5'5"), and she works out a little bit and has a normal BMI. They have sex at this stage of their relationship 2-3 times on a week on average. She's not menstruating this week and they have sex on 3 separate days, going multiple rounds each time but fewer than the 17 orgasms of Man #1.

Man 3: This guy is not in a relationship right now. He drives a sports car. He has a nice bachelor pad apartment in a larger city. He has sex with 3 different women this week, including a 5'10" woman with a Victoria's Secret model type body (slender, large breast implants), an ex-college athlete, and another fit, feminine, beautiful woman. All 3 women are in the "hot" range, 8+ to most men. He has sex with these 3 women on 5 separate days, and all 3 have been in his rotation for a 1-4 months.

Man #2 and Man #3 will have a much different energy in the world than Man #1.

 

[Mike32ct]

Man#1 will probably have awkward and potentially creepy body language from watching so much porn. If he meets a cute busty chick in real life, is he really going to be able to make solid confident eye contact with her lol?

 

[flowtheory]

Does actual sex influence no fap, or to put it better, does too much sex have the same effects of too much porn/fapping? And does it break the no-fap streak?

I doubt men who aren’t getting sex are doing no fap. I think they will try it as some golden solution for a bit, then see it doesn’t change things much.
People who do no fap, are still addicted to their release. Now they’re just counting how many days they haven’t released. They will ‘relapse’

Too much sex can make a man feel tired and lose his energy, less focused, assertive, for the reasons of the release of testosterone you feel after you blow your load.

No fap has nothing to do with sex. So no, sex doesn’t break no fap. No fap just means no masturbation.


No fap and all that is silly. Just stop watching porn and pursue real life women and enjoy sex! Being addicted to porn or sex are real things. Masturbation is fine and great. Like everything.. balance and moderation.

 

[Romanemp22]

In my opinion it doesn't affect me a bit because turning yourself on and when a girl is doing it are two very different ways of horniness.

 

[Romanemp22]

Exactly.

I'd say overdoing it (esp. with porn) is bad for your mental health. Otherwise, it's perfectly healthy to fap in or out of a relationship. It only changes your energy if you let it.

Yes you are right. Whenever I was fapping on porn for some period of time I was not in the good mood, a lot of intrusive thoughts etc. If I'm doing it freely without porn every 10-14 days, if I have no girl at the moment, everything is legit.

 

[EyeOnThePrize]

It varies completely from person to person and what kind of streak you're doing. Nofap is mainly for people with masturbation addiction problems.

I have definitely gone on nofap then substituted with sluuts to get off. Personally I've realized this isn't what I want, so I nofap to channel my energy into pushing my life forward(currently single). I end up getting up extremely early with crazy boners, then working out, studying things that interest me, and am more dominant in pretty much every facet of my life.

To me, fuucking sluuts just to get off is the same as fapping. There's no real substance to the act, no real point, other than to release, which is lame and self defeating imo, so I consider that breaking a streak.

I force myself to only go for women I absolutely enjoy, and not just easy ones that I tolerate to get off. If I fuuck a woman I adore I don't count that as a reset because I can see a future with her, thus it isn't a waste of time, but again that's my personal take.

Being single and not fapping is the best inspiration I've found for staying in motion and breaking through barriers. To me fapping even once will make me more relaxed and complacent for that day or that hour, and that's one less day/hour I'm being relentless with my goal pursuits. My philosophy seems to be more extreme than most posters, but that's just who I am.

Fuucking in a relationship can still be considered fapping imo, if you're using the sex to validate yourself rather than to give to your partner out of abundance.

 

[EyeOnThePrize]

I guess I disagree with this and with other posters who see fapping as a net negative. (And bear with me, this isn't all arguing specifically against you here.)

To me it's just a healthy component of my sex life, if done correctly (not overdoing it). I think there's more to it than simple release. The point is to enjoy one's self, so maybe a lot of the negativity men express comes from shame or guilt...not the religious kind, but the "I should be fukking a woman" kind. That's just an unhealthy mindset, IMO. Yes, sex is (usually) better with a partner, and it's good to build your life so you have that option available. But there's a mindset in the manosphere to be counting lays as markers of progress rather than singular enjoyable moments with someone. And then the reverse of that is "if I use my hand, I'm not making progress." And people come up with these crazy theories that their testosterone is overflowing from not fapping (ignoring homeostasis). I guess if it works for them, that's cool.

As for what you said about banging slvts...again, I think it's better to take an experience for what it is than to shove it into a positive/negative category. I've had some underwhelming one night stands, wouldn't brag about them here lol. But it was still something I enjoyed in the moment with someone. As long as two people's interests intersect, I try to focus on the positive, even if it was "well, that was an experience, but I hope not to repeat it."

A while ago I would fap after reaching homeostasis. It would usually take a few months for energy levels to subside on nofap, so I would then bust nuts for a few days or a week, and it would be another few months of crazy energy as my body tried to acclimate again. I've now learned to shake things up without having to do even that.

You mention fapping being part of a healthy sex life, and not to overdo it. First of all how would you define overdoing it? And aren't you doing the exact opposite of me? Rather than avoiding homeostasis you are actively seeking it out.

Personally I find much more growth and power in making myself uncomfortable. I've learned to relish it.

Why do you feel you need to 'maintain' a level of comfort in this regard?

 

[EyeOnThePrize]

Anyway what I'm saying is it's not going to just keep building and building. We're not volcanoes. I'll get more T production from steady weight lifting and cardio than from not jerking off.

I know. That's why I said when things level off I used to fap for a day or a few then stop to start the cycle again. Now I found ways to restart the cycle without fapping. And I never stop lifting.

To the rest of your post yea I guess different strokes for different folks(pun intended). Fun little distractions can be great, but for me fapping isn't even on the list. I personally gain too much by not doing it. I'd rather hold out and learn to direct that crazy energy.

And funny, I was the exact opposite of you as a teen, I'd beat it 8 times a day and brought girls over so often my parents started to complain.

 

[bruf3n]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is Homeostasis?

 

[Lookatu]

Here's my take:

Masturbation can be healthy if done sparingly and with minimal amount of porn. If you end up doing it too much, it will lower your drive/incentive to seek out actual real life partners and if/when you do get a partner, it could prevent you from getting rock hard or maintaining erections.

I can't tell you guys how many stories I've heard from younger gals where they said guys couldn't get it up easily or maintain an erection for any length of time. And these are guys that are in their 20's and 30's. You don't want to be one of those. Most gals automatically tell me this because I usually can last 1-2 hours easily and is something they're not used to.

With that said, I used to masturbate every day from 12yo to 45yo, even when I had sex with girls/gf's. That's how high my libido was. However I noticed it trailing off around 45yo so now I hardly masturbate and save it for the lucky girl I can unleash all my pent up sexual energy on. Luckily I've been able to maintain a 2-3 plate rotation for a couple years now and only have masturbated maybe 3-4 times in 2 years.

I advocate saving your sexual energy for actual girls when possible. It will make it that much better.

 

[RickTheToad]

Never had an issue when I wanted to rub one out and was/is in a relationship. However, I have insanely high testosterone levels (always had), so it's not been an issue. The nofap is BS and has no scientific backing in doing anything. If you want to do a knuckle shuffle once a day or every few days, it's all good. If a dude cannot get it up or is soft after a knuckle shuffle, then he should get some blood work done. Seriously, get your blood work done to make sure all your numbers are where they should be.