"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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No fap challenge: Seriously?!

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What the hell do you think you accomplish by not beating your meat puppet? As if you're going to store up some sexual energy to propel out to women by not spanking the monkey?

Women and men masturbate. It doesn't make any difference.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Give it a try before you bash it, I also view it as an exercise in self control. Its hard not to beat if for more than a week
 

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Yeah. Kinda sounds like desperate guys looking for a magic pill.

I really doubt most of society has to go through such measures.
 

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Bumsniff said:
What the hell do you think you accomplish by not beating your meat puppet? As if you're going to store up some sexual energy to propel out to women by not spanking the monkey?

Women and men masturbate. It doesn't make any difference.
Sounds like a guy who stays in his room looking at porn all day.
 

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Yeah I say that all the time whenever this topic gets brought up.

It's a pointless exercise IMO, and may even make the guy more sexually frustrated.

We have to drain the pipe every now and again, nothing wrong with it.

Some people think if they stop beating off it will improve their game, like they'll have the testosterone and sexual energy of a thousand men, thus giving them the confidence they need to approach women.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Nothing bothers me more than people discounting a method that works for people when they won't even try it themselves. There are dozens of guys here talking how how they feel it helps them. What grounds are you going on to say that it's ridiculous? Because you don't want to test it out? It won't kill you. Try it. If you disagree after experimenting, fine... don't do it anymore.

I was skeptical like everyone else was. But there is something to it. It's nothing drastic (at least not for me), but I have more energy and I don't shy away from things as much. They seem to happen a bit more naturally.

Every time I get really serious with this "no fap" seems to lead to me getting a fresh batch of new plates. Maybe it's coincidence, but this is the 3rd time (out of 3) where that was the case. And this is coming from a guy who NEVER had "plates". It was one girl or no girl. Now I have had multiple plates multiple times within a year.
 

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Bumsniff said:
What the hell do you think you accomplish by not beating your meat puppet? As if you're going to store up some sexual energy to propel out to women by not spanking the monkey?

Women and men masturbate. It doesn't make any difference.
KJ's gonna KJ right Bumsniff...
 

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It's a mindset man. I'm a creative, and I always seem to have the best ideas if I do not beat my meat.

Also masturbating de-sensitizes you for actual sex if you do it too much. The feeling wont be the same as your hand... So it makes sex that much worse for you if you do it too much.
 

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I do it because I'm afraid that if I continue to masturbate and watch porn it will reinforce the social anxiety I suffer from and it will make me addicted to rely on porn and masturbation and not have actual sex with a female. It doesn't help that I haven't had sex either.

So I'm trying to reframe from porn and masturbation and rely soley on an actual female to give me my orgasm rather than my hand. And I refuse to accept I'm an addict to something. That upsets me to the fullest when I find out I'm addicted and can't get off.

I do agree that moderation is the easy way out and I want to try that because I refuse to have a dry spell and leave my
John with no purpose.

But the research is worth reading. Some stuff is hilarious and cannot be proven. But when I masturbate to porn and orgasm and the next day I go out to the social world. I still have the anxiety but I still have the desire to fvck all the girls I see that are attractive.

So some stuff is true and some stuff is laughable.
To each is own. I did at one point take that no fap challenge serious but I've given up on the counting and the posting in that thread.

Moderation is the key.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Solomon said:
KJ's gonna KJ right Bumsniff...

Better start beating off to your soiled lifesized Zyzz doll again Swallowman you're getting cranky.
 

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Better start beating off to your soiled lifesized Zyzz doll again Swallowman you're getting cranky.
How's it feel to be 35 going nowhere fast?

it's ok old man, mail-order-brides In russia are always looking for suckers like you

;)
 

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DJ Bax said:
Give it a try before you bash it, I also view it as an exercise in self control. Its hard not to beat if for more than a week
That's because your body sends your T levels soaring after 7 days with no ejaculation as a way of trying to convince you to do something about it. Don't listen and the body will shrug its shoulders and send T levels plummeting since it figures you don't need it...

No ejaculation for prolonged periods...brilliant way to lower T and raise estrogen levels
 

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...ez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

This current study examined the effect of a 3-week period of sexual abstinence on the neuroendocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm. Hormonal and cardiovascular parameters were examined in ten healthy adult men during sexual arousal and masturbation-induced orgasm. Blood was drawn continuously and cardiovascular parameters were constantly monitored. This procedure was conducted for each participant twice, both before and after a 3-week period of sexual abstinence. Plasma was subsequently analysed for concentrations of adrenaline, noradrenaline, cortisol, prolactin, luteinizing hormone and testosterone concentrations. Orgasm increased blood pressure, heart rate, plasma catecholamines and prolactin. These effects were observed both before and after sexual abstinence. In contrast, although plasma testosterone was unaltered by orgasm, higher testosterone concentrations were observed following the period of abstinence. These data demonstrate that acute abstinence does not change the neuroendocrine response to orgasm but does produce elevated levels of testosterone in males.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Solomon said:
How's it feel to be 35 going nowhere fast?

it's ok old man, mail-order-brides In russia are always looking for suckers like you

;)

Swallowman is getting all hissy since he almost blew it (pun intended) on his no fap challenge while leering at auntie across the dinner table.
 

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Bumsniff said:
Swallowman is getting all hissy since he almost blew it (pun intended) on his no fap challenge while leering at auntie across the dinner table.

lol @ swallowman you know how I know you gay?

Keep sniffing Bum's you bum

:kick:
 

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I was watching a documentary about mike tyson and in it he talks about part of his training was no fap or sex. So he didn't have sex for 2 years I think.. that's why he raped women afterwards, he thought they wanted his d1ck and was just playing hard to get. lol (ok I made that last bit up)
 

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Solomon said:
lol @ swallowman you know how I know you gay?

Keep sniffing Bum's you bum

:kick:

Swallowman, take a No Breathing challenge next and let us know when you've won. For extra incentive use a pair of Zyzz worn jock straps to asphyxiate yourself to permanent sleep with.
 

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PDubb75 said:

Higher testosterone itself doesn't mean anything. Like "being more creative" or "feeling better" or not "shying away from stuff" ...
Can you copy and paste an article that shows the correlation you are actually referring to?

Ever heard of Magritte? It's actually fun:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images

Whatever you are feeling is probably the placebo effect. I recently stopped drinking diet coke and it made me feel good. Because I proved to myself that I can change my behavior.

Whatever you are doing is technically called "Cognitive Behavioral Therapy" aka CBT.
Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioral_therapy

It is indeed one of the most effective therapy methods and well-respected in psychiatry.


You can exercise self-control as much as you want; it's probably good for you -- just don't pretend that you become scientific and rational when you c/p lines from papers you don't understand.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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