Why does it seem that I can't get any EC in the gym. I mean I really am comfortable with it but can't get any. Also this happens on the street. What's wrong. Are they shy? Don't find me EC material? I don't have the ball s to approach without EC
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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- Thread starter napoleon
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
I have found that it is very hard to get eye contact from random girls. I am no longer to shy too look into their eyes but it doesn't mean they aren't shy.
Some guys have a baseline serious expression on their faces. Be sure when you try to make EC you have at least the hint of a smile, to show friendly intentions.
Work on overcoming this. A lot of chicks don't give signals, so you are cutting down your pool of available women significantly. In a way you're letting them choose you (should be other way round) by making sure they "invite" you over (based solely on your looks incidentally). Some chicks with high IL may even be be too shy or nervous to make/hold EC!
A man sees what he wants and goes after it. "Signals" are unreliable anyway.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Maybe because I don't have a smile on me. But when a girl is shy she will look at me when she thinks I am not looking. Could the others be so shy that they are looking me behind my back (of course some don't look at all)?
even start a convo."She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
comic_relief
Master Don Juan
You won't get EC without a smile and if she does look up, try a friendly wave. Both work together so well.
Whenever I manage that, I usuallly get into a convo with a girl and the phone number.
example: I am sitting there eating in a chinese restaurant and I look up and see this lady eating her food alone. I sit there and have a good smile on and then wave. when she looks up, and we get into a 15 minute conversation about useless junk. Went for the number close and got it.
My success rate with this method is about 9 out of every 10 women.
And I dont find it that hard to get random women to give me EC in school and town.
pretty much make sure you have a good confident smile and a wave(friendly). Worked wonders for me.
Just my 2 cents
Whenever I manage that, I usuallly get into a convo with a girl and the phone number.
example: I am sitting there eating in a chinese restaurant and I look up and see this lady eating her food alone. I sit there and have a good smile on and then wave. when she looks up, and we get into a 15 minute conversation about useless junk. Went for the number close and got it.
My success rate with this method is about 9 out of every 10 women.
And I dont find it that hard to get random women to give me EC in school and town.
pretty much make sure you have a good confident smile and a wave(friendly). Worked wonders for me.
Just my 2 cents
Now we come to my next problem. When I am walking and see a cute girl I try to make EC. If she does make it ,it will be when she is passing me so when I smile she has already walked past me. So should I already smile even though she hasn't noticed me?
yes same as for me, in general that is what most ppl do....everyone has their own private space that no one dares to enter.
yea i dont get much EC either...i think, i dont wear my glasses in gym so 99% of the time it's hard to tell if i even get any EC.
man today i was in the gym, and this girl was having a stroll all around the gym for about 20 mins...i have no clue why the ****. she walked past me several times. i couldnt exactly see what her face looked like, as you know i dont wear my glasses. but based on as much as i could see, she seems like she was in her late 20's....so i doubt i would've went near her. when i went back into the locker room to change and leave, as i exit the locker room...she also exits the locker room.
so i was thinking hm...maybe she expected me to talk to her and # close. oh well i just left it at that.
comic_relief
Master Don Juan
I dont know whether all the other DJs do this (I would like to know if you DJs do this too) but i am constantly smiling. I am constantly happy. When ever I am seeing a girl I am always have that confident smile on my face.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
comic_relief
Master Don Juan
yep it was hard at first but after a while it got much easier.