"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Nicer than the nice guy

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What is it about ME, that makes me NICER to the ladies, than the nice guy?

Why is playing games, nicer than playing subordinate?

There are so many questions, so many answers. I notice now, and am happier, when I treat the ladies, with UTMOST respect. Compared to back in the day, when I would give them what I thought they wanted, instead of what I now think they need.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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because they actually enjoy it.


if women wanted an approval seeking subordinate playtoy, they'd get a puppy.

oh, and i almost forgot to add. i think AFC should be revised to read "Approval seeking eFfin Chump"
 

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Hey this brings up a good point, which is that nice behavior and the impression it makes is dependent on the position it's coming from.

When someone is submissive, it is assumed they will be 'nice' because they are not your equal. You are their superior, hence any behavior from them that isn't 'nice' is a challenge, and hence they avoid it to keep your good graces. Thus this kind of nice behavior earns you no points with anybody, because it is self-serving.

Niceness combined with dominance, however, is a form of validation. When you are complimentary without being submissive, what you are really doing is enhancing another person's status and elevating them. This is the kind of niceness that does not seem to be self-serving, as it is not necessary for you to be complimentary to someone who is considered inferior to you. People will be much more responsive to this sort of niceness.

In conclusion, those who suffer from 'nice-guy' syndrome are wise to continue being kind while ditching submissive overtones and they will be seen as actually being nice rather than just being kiss-ass submissive.
 

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Originally posted by ethnomethodologist
What is it about ME, that makes me NICER to the ladies, than the nice guy?

Why is playing games, nicer than playing subordinate?

There are so many questions, so many answers. I notice now, and am happier, when I treat the ladies, with UTMOST respect. Compared to back in the day, when I would give them what I thought they wanted, instead of what I now think they need.
Being nice is boring. Being mean is funny as hell!! It creates a reaction from her. It makes her wonder what is different about this guy than all the others. It gives you something to talk about and it creates an emotional connection in the conversation.
 

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"There are so many questions, so many answers. I notice now, and am happier, when I treat the ladies, with UTMOST respect."

Where can I find someone like you?

One doesn't have to be an a**hole to be funny. He can just be confident and funny, which I find very attractive in a guy.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Originally posted by blueangel83
Where can I find someone like you?
Look for the guy that everybody smiles and laughs at when they see him, if he laughs back, that's one of me.

if women wanted an approval seeking subordinate playtoy, they'd get a puppy.
So don't seek attention, do your own thing. Give them something they enjoy, not just whatever they want. If you think that is bad, try telling them why they're going to enjoy it too, nothing '*******' about doing that.

those who suffer from 'nice-guy' syndrome are wise to continue being kind while ditching submissive overtones
See, BrotherAp gets it...

It gives you something to talk about and it creates an emotional connection in the conversation.
You can do this while treating everybody with respect. An ******* makes a new enemy, and makes other people get embarrassed. A nice guy embarrasses himself, and than makes a new friend.
One doesn't have to be an a**hole to be funny. He can just be confident and funny, which I find very attractive in a guy.
 

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the deal on niceness

ok niceness in guys comes from mommy (with the best intentions) telling u to be really nice to women b/c theyll like u for ur kindness. so ur conditioned from young age to be nice.
ok now when u grow up and ur exposed to how f-d up the world is u learn the hard way how u cant b mr. nice guy. ull get stepped on. so either:

ur an innocent underexposed, soft p--sy, delicate and ure gonna get f--cked repeatedly by others

or

ure putting on a nice guy act to impress the girl

nice meaning
(1) sweet
(2) agreeable
(3) generous
(4) inoffensive
(5) easy
theres a time and place for everything including niceness
trying being less of those things above, u r still being disrespectful by any means.
 
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