"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Nicer than the nice guy

ethnomethodologist

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What is it about ME, that makes me NICER to the ladies, than the nice guy?

Why is playing games, nicer than playing subordinate?

There are so many questions, so many answers. I notice now, and am happier, when I treat the ladies, with UTMOST respect. Compared to back in the day, when I would give them what I thought they wanted, instead of what I now think they need.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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because they actually enjoy it.


if women wanted an approval seeking subordinate playtoy, they'd get a puppy.

oh, and i almost forgot to add. i think AFC should be revised to read "Approval seeking eFfin Chump"
 

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Hey this brings up a good point, which is that nice behavior and the impression it makes is dependent on the position it's coming from.

When someone is submissive, it is assumed they will be 'nice' because they are not your equal. You are their superior, hence any behavior from them that isn't 'nice' is a challenge, and hence they avoid it to keep your good graces. Thus this kind of nice behavior earns you no points with anybody, because it is self-serving.

Niceness combined with dominance, however, is a form of validation. When you are complimentary without being submissive, what you are really doing is enhancing another person's status and elevating them. This is the kind of niceness that does not seem to be self-serving, as it is not necessary for you to be complimentary to someone who is considered inferior to you. People will be much more responsive to this sort of niceness.

In conclusion, those who suffer from 'nice-guy' syndrome are wise to continue being kind while ditching submissive overtones and they will be seen as actually being nice rather than just being kiss-ass submissive.
 

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Originally posted by ethnomethodologist
What is it about ME, that makes me NICER to the ladies, than the nice guy?

Why is playing games, nicer than playing subordinate?

There are so many questions, so many answers. I notice now, and am happier, when I treat the ladies, with UTMOST respect. Compared to back in the day, when I would give them what I thought they wanted, instead of what I now think they need.
Being nice is boring. Being mean is funny as hell!! It creates a reaction from her. It makes her wonder what is different about this guy than all the others. It gives you something to talk about and it creates an emotional connection in the conversation.
 

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"There are so many questions, so many answers. I notice now, and am happier, when I treat the ladies, with UTMOST respect."

Where can I find someone like you?

One doesn't have to be an a**hole to be funny. He can just be confident and funny, which I find very attractive in a guy.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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ethnomethodologist

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Originally posted by blueangel83
Where can I find someone like you?
Look for the guy that everybody smiles and laughs at when they see him, if he laughs back, that's one of me.

if women wanted an approval seeking subordinate playtoy, they'd get a puppy.
So don't seek attention, do your own thing. Give them something they enjoy, not just whatever they want. If you think that is bad, try telling them why they're going to enjoy it too, nothing '*******' about doing that.

those who suffer from 'nice-guy' syndrome are wise to continue being kind while ditching submissive overtones
See, BrotherAp gets it...

It gives you something to talk about and it creates an emotional connection in the conversation.
You can do this while treating everybody with respect. An ******* makes a new enemy, and makes other people get embarrassed. A nice guy embarrasses himself, and than makes a new friend.
One doesn't have to be an a**hole to be funny. He can just be confident and funny, which I find very attractive in a guy.
 

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the deal on niceness

ok niceness in guys comes from mommy (with the best intentions) telling u to be really nice to women b/c theyll like u for ur kindness. so ur conditioned from young age to be nice.
ok now when u grow up and ur exposed to how f-d up the world is u learn the hard way how u cant b mr. nice guy. ull get stepped on. so either:

ur an innocent underexposed, soft p--sy, delicate and ure gonna get f--cked repeatedly by others

or

ure putting on a nice guy act to impress the girl

nice meaning
(1) sweet
(2) agreeable
(3) generous
(4) inoffensive
(5) easy
theres a time and place for everything including niceness
trying being less of those things above, u r still being disrespectful by any means.
 
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