"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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New plate w possible issue

Knight's Cross

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Alright, sunday afternoon, went on a walk thru an art museum with a new plate. A comfortable time into date I asked her how she wound up in our town. Her answer,"She had to get sober." That she has been dry for 6 years. She spent 2 years in treatment at a local facility. Seems like a normal chick otherwise. She works in the retail clothing industry. She's about a 7-8 in looks. I don't know if it was just booze she had an issue with, she talked about working in LA for awhile in the radio business. I'd guess that it was alcohol and drugs.
Question: 1. Who's got experience dating recovered alcoholics?
If anyones got experience with this I'm all ears. I've never been around someone like this. On the one side I can see if a person has 6 years sober I'd call it good, that's a definite plus that they've dealt with a problem. I do see it as at least a yellow flag.
What say the crowd? Mark this as a yellow flag and proceed, or toss this one back into the lake.
I've got 2 other plates spinning.
KC
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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GotED?

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You should weigh everything else that you find attracted to and about her to see the whole picture. Every woman that walks into your life will have imperfection (thank gad she is honest and that shows maturity in the beginning! some don't tell you until you are married...) - you have to weigh the whole picture and not just see the tree but see the forest as well. Good luck.

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Knight's Cross

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Exodus,
I am looking at the total picture. This is a new "dysfunction" for me. Sure everyone has their issues. I've never dealt with an alcoholic tho. The cool thing is I don't walk on eggshells, I did ask some about it, just to let her know I wanted to feel out what it was all about. Didn't rub her nose in it, but out of curiousity wanted some details. That's fair, she asked about my past as well. Nothing to hide.
KC
 

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In a past life I spent considerable time around recovering alcoholics and addicts. While I've never dated one, I'd say give her then benefit of the doubt since she has quite a bit of time under her belt. If she were newly sober, I'd say no way, but 6 years shows commitment and character.

I dont know if you are a social drinker but personally that would bother me. I'd feel almost guilty if I enjoyed a few beers in front of her.
 

Scaramouche

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Dear KC,
If she is a plate,it really doesn't matter....Six years dry? that's really very good,remember,seven years in remission is considered cured for cancer patients....DJ's don't marry,so no sweat really,just enjoy!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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