"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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this is my first post on this forum so let me intro my self
my names dean im 18 and from england
iv been doing this game for the past two years so generaly im ok with girls

iv decided to set my self a bit of a challange, afterall nothing to be learnt when you take the easy option

heres this story
nice and simple

hot chik allways hangs out in a 4set 2 girls one guy and her
both girls she hangs with are veryyyy *****y the guy is ok

i from time to time go out ot lunch with themand somtimes let the girl think im intrested in her
however the other two chiks keep getting in the way like basically chat **** iv tried to isolate her but as expected the two chiks follow on....
iv tried to use the guy as a wingman but he is one neeeedy bastard....
i swear im not givein up ont his one lols

lets hear some ideas peeps!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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If you just sit down at their table and then focus on her, its not just weird for her, but her friends will try to protect her too.

Instead, talk to the whole group. More to her friends then to her. Get them laughing, be interesting, and be the center of attention. Eventually, you want her friends to be in a conversation or something, and then you can turn to the girl you want and talk to her 1 on 1. "So do they always fight like that?". Whatever. Get her number right then and there. In the future, you can just call her up and go out on a date, and not have to worry about her friends at all.
 

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If you would like us to help you,we could use a couple more things;
DETAILS ON SPECIFIC SITUATIONS and ages to start.
 

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ah sorry blinkwatt dteails:
there all 19

urm as for situations

we'd be walking up to the supermarket for lunch and its like 10 mins away, i usualy isolate her easily enough and we move ahead of the group and start talking and as soon as im getting someweere her freinds will shout random comments ie wow looks like you two are geeting on too fine, or even at one point they shouted watch out he justs wont to bum you.
i then throw a bit of cnf:

me: wow your friends are realy clever
her: huh why
me: they allready no my intentions

but usualy at this point they allready have cought up and back to step one!

this is turning out to be a hard one!

Ace of Flames: thanxs for the advice, however iv tried that.....quite a few times, but i get blocked by the rest of her group

i swear im gona crack this one!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Ace of Flames said:
If you just sit down at their table and then focus on her, its not just weird for her, but her friends will try to protect her too.

Instead, talk to the whole group. More to her friends then to her. Get them laughing, be interesting, and be the center of attention. Eventually, you want her friends to be in a conversation or something, and then you can turn to the girl you want and talk to her 1 on 1. "So do they always fight like that?". Whatever. Get her number right then and there. In the future, you can just call her up and go out on a date, and not have to worry about her friends at all.
I think this is the worst advice I've ever heard in my life. First of all, if the two girls act as c*ckblockers, it's going to be very very difficult to get them to be friendly with you. Secondly, if you try to make friends with the whole group, you are sending the wrong message, but by now, most of you who know Ace of Flamer already understand that he HATES everybody who thinks its ok to let the girl know you are attracted to her. Third, as if the first part of your comment wasn't bad enough, the "and then you can turn to the girl you want and talk to her 1 on 1" sentence literally made me vomit, punch myself in the face knocking out my front teeth, and pull two thirds of all of my hair out of my scalp. IF YOU GO 1 ON 1 AFTER "ATTEMPTING TO MAKE FRIENDS WITH THE GROUP", you are basically making yourself look like a fake, and that you used the group to get into the girl. Look, just talk to the girl when she's alone, don't even mess with her pals. That is unless you want to date them too.
 

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Ok, you just proved you have no idea what's going on. That stuff is in the bible, written plain as day. Its in Mystery Method. Neil Strauss and David D. also talk about it. Its common knowledge, proven time and again.

You just wanted to get at ME, and you failed in doing so. Sorry guy, go back in your corner and ball up into the fetal position.
 

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:confused: ....dude u talking to me or the other bloke?

im not trying to get at any one

with respect to me not having a clue whats going opn perhaps you can tell me where i messed up.....

approaced....oppend the set talked to all the group not just her
used the negs and ****y n funny
isolated her i did get her num however it seems shes inseprable from this lot
 
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