"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Net Dating. How to go About it.

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Guys, I'd try to keep this very short. Well, I met this girl online about a week ago and we decided to meet sometimes this weekend. I have never participated in online dating things so I would like to be provided with advice how to go about taking her out. Should I give her my number to call me or ask for her number to call her or just ask her to meet me somewhere. I just don't know. Has anybody done online dating b/4? If so, how did you all go about it?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Desperately need help.

Guys I need to know what to do. Please help. I have to send her an email sometimes by the end of today to arrange for our meetings. Any suggestions will do.
 
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Thanks for the response reyalp but the search thing did not work for me. I could not pull out anything vital. Do you have any online experience yourself?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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You can do it a couple of ways.

The best way, I think is to simply arrange a spot to meet via email.

For example, you say lets meet at the coffee shop on the corner of 21st and Main at 2pm saturday.

You can ask for her phone number and then call to setup the date; This also works, but depending on the level of rapport built up via email she may be uncomfortable giving out her number before a face to face.

I'd recommend my first suggestion. Simply state the time and place of the date then show up at the designated time.

You can PM me if you need any more advice on the online dating thing, i've played with it in the past.
 
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She already provided me her number. We arranged to meet this saturday. I think the first suggestion will work best. I just don't feel comfortable talking to her on the phone right now. I told her I volunteer preparing taxes for the community and she already fell in love with me. She immediately provided me her number. I don't know whether this is a good sign or not. I will just have to see. I will keep you all posted every single moment of the date. Thanks all.
 
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Originally posted by amoka
I told her I volunteer preparing taxes for the community and she already fell in love with me.
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Read this back to yourself a hundred times.


Not to be too cynical, but I doubt she "already fell in love with (you)" :rolleyes: because of your generosity to the community....
 
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Actually, I should not have said that. I just that by saying that got me attracted to her more. That is what I assume. I might be wrong and maybe I'm wrong.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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