"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Nei Strauss - sellout or not?

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Ok i just watched a video clip of Neil Strauss appearing on "This morning with Richard and Judy" ( its a chat show in the UK ) and now im a little frightened. They discussed his book in detail and he took three guys into a bar and they used

the 80's dogs openers,
jealous girlfriend openers,
they discussed time contraints
the "girl has same outfit as you" neghit
a few more.

This went on national television. I know its been on TV stations in other countries too.
These openers/neghits/routines are useless from now on.


The more i think of it, the more i believe that a woman will know when your "running game on her" thanks to Mr Strauss, especially the mystery method.( which is described in the book ).

Part of me thinks that Mr Strauss has done a great job awakening those men who for years have been going through anguish in regards to getting girls. But the other part of me is angry at Strauss for awakening the female population to PUA methods and formulas.

Yes before you mention it or flame me, i shouldnt rely on Strauss's book or his methods to pick up women, its not that which worries me. Whats worrying is that women will now be more aware of a PUA and someone who will run game on them. This is a fact. Womens magazines will tear this up.

For all you guys using styles/mysterys routines, better come up with your own stuff pretty soon before you walk into a club , open a chick by saying
"hey i need a female opinion on something.." to which she cuts you off and says "yeh your buddies are over there you have 2 mins cos you need to get back to em, his girlfriends jealous, who cares, get lost":down:

A new ERA of PUAdom shall evole IMO.

Strauss, sellout or not?
Mr Strauss, sir if you ever read this thread, great book you wrote but youve ratted us all out in the process
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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The word "player" existed before him. Didn't they ever ask you if you were a player when you were so smooth?

In that case, no one should lie, because the bible's out in the bookstores.

Stop watching (so much) tv, and you will never hear a word about him.
 

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Originally posted by muttley
Whats worrying is that women will now be more aware of a PUA and someone who will run game on them. This is a fact. Womens magazines will tear this up.
You never heard of the book "The Rules" that came out about 10 years ago have you? It was a guide for women as to how to hook a man. It basically was a set of sh1t tests that could deflect weak game and perpetuate the existance of "nice guys."

The book was extremely successful in sales but DJs still survived despite it. Actually the women who wrote the book ended up getting divorced from their husbands but that's another story altogether.

The fact is (and you said it in your post), DJs shouldn't rely on canned lines especially if it were stolen from someone else. It's like using cheat codes in video games with less of a chance of actually winning.
 

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true true, the point im trying to argue is that women will be more aware of PUA methods and PUAs in general because of this
 

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Originally posted by muttley
true true, the point im trying to argue is that women will be more aware of PUA methods and PUAs in general because of this
but we're not PUAs, so don't worry, it's okay.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Originally posted by h2o
but we're not PUAs, so don't worry, it's okay.
Some of us sargers are using these tactics..come on ive read your sarging thread too dude :D
 

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Originally posted by muttley
true true, the point im trying to argue is that women will be more aware of PUA methods and PUAs in general because of this
Yep. and because they know that guys are trying to pick them up, they'll stop liking d*ck.

Strauss sold no one out. Although I'd never head of 'style' before the book came out, it is clear after reading it that he played a MAJOR part in building EVERYTHING that we now take for granted.

Had Strauss never met Mystery there would have been no Project Hollywood, which means no RSD. The Mystery Method would be completely different, infact, Mystery could be dead.

The things that Strauss, Mystery and the rest have learnt, they didn't have to teach it. They certainly didn't have to teach it for free.

These ideas and methods were going to be found by more and more people, and someone was always going to make alot of money from it. It seems fitting that Strauss and Mystery would both make alot of money.

I don't know enough about other PUAs. But David D, Tyler both seem like they deserve the $$ aswell (even though I don't enjoy there long winded threads.)

So better that these guys make the $$ on it, then some chump who comes along, learns it all, and writes a book without ever giving to the community.
 

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Originally posted by muttley
Some of us sargers are using these tactics..come on ive read your sarging thread too dude :D
ok, ok, Juggler rocks :D but I'm not a big fan of Style. i've read yours too, sarge on!

still, if you "sprinkle" in the tips you get from these guys and not rely heavily on their "methods" you will do fine. i think it's mostly a problem if you're substituting your own personality for canned material...which DJs wouldn't do.
 

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Originally posted by muttley
true true, the point im trying to argue is that women will be more aware of PUA methods and PUAs in general because of this
This is just the first time when a guy has provided information. All the womens magazines, television talk shows and works by feminazi authors have been attempting to either expose or lambaste us for years.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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ill upload the clip to rapidshare or something... watch this thread...ill upload it.
 

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Even if mainstream females learn and watch out for pua's, we'll just become better at disguising ourselves, nothing can stop us, we are too strong, and too many.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Wow, that was a lot more informative than any of the interviews Neil's done over here in the States. Glad that show's over the pond. :D
 

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****, if real 10+HB women find out about the game they will look for naturals.

If your not a DJ you are not natural, and that is why you read these forums.
 

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The only defense that Neil really has is: most of the routines that he is giving away, he invented.
 

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We'd all do the same....

It really sucks what he's done. I see people talking about this **** everywhere now. From about.com to newspapers to you name it.

I am sad to say that most of us probably would've done the same thing had we only the talent and forethought. I'm not being self-righteous here, but the more commercial things get.. the more mainstream public will become awaken to it. Money breeds advertising to get more money. It's great for those people selling products.

At this point my new material doesn't even get shared with my local wings unless they observe it, because I know it will eventually get posted on the Internet. Even my field reports are going to be censored from this point forward.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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