"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Negs and C+F lines to use if your lost for things to say.

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Hey I was just looking around some other dating advice forums and came across this. I take no credit for any of them but thought it may help the odd person if they get stuck.

- Which one of you guys would win in a fight?
- You're taking this way too seriously
- Stop flirting with me
- If that were true, you wouldn't love me
- You must've driven your parents crazy
- Give me a kiss on the cheek, and maybe I'll let you forgive me
- I'm too high maintenance for you
- What else do you like about me?
- I'm so out of your league
- Let's play a game. Let's see how long you can hold your breath
- You're back to square one with me, missy
- You're so outside the circle of trust
- How short are you?
- You're such a player
- You guys remind me of the Power Puff Girls/or/ You guys are like watching The View
- Do your parents know where you are
- Isn't this a school night
- You're makeup is smudged
- Bartender, you might want to check this girl's ID again
- We should hang out some time. You can help me pick up chicks
- You girls aren't toursists, are you?
- Holy ****, you really don't know what you're doing, do you?
- Careful girl, I'm a heartbreak waiting to happen
- Your ex boyfriend sounds just like me
- I'm so emotionally unavailable right now
- I think you might make a nice friend
- We need to find you a man
- We would never get along
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Clever stuff :)

If a girl throws a tantrum I say, "How do you find time to attend playschool(/pre-school) AND high school?"

Thanks for sharing Plec :)

PS. What was the forum called? Might be helpful...
 

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Nice ideas.
I thought of these:
After you gain some rapport and a # you can say :"Great, i just got my 15 y\o bro a chick.".
And on the phone you can say "Hello!!!" and than she says :"Its Sharon" you say "fffs, you again?".
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I don't expect anybody to even attemp to remember them all, but pick your favorite two or so and use em when you get stuck
 

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nice thread, Plec.
 

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"your ex-boyfriend sounds so like me" is more like a false dq instead of neg.
 

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Neg-hits? Big no-no unless the girl is at least an 8.5 or she sees herself that way (she's arrogant or wtvr.)


Good post nonetheless.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I neg every girl I know, regardless of HB rating. Hell, I even neg most guys. And I get away with it, because thats who I am. It's my style, you won't have many convos with me without gettin hit by a neg. Create your own style, there are no solid rules.
 

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Yeah, I know, but I'm just mentioning a general rule on the safe side.

I neg a lot personally, unintentionally too. Hence, I'm just saying.
 

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Ah cool, yeah I read that again just now and realise it may have come across as a bit defensive. I didn't mean it to. I'm just stating that you can neg a lot and do it.
 

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I neg all the time. If the girl can't handle the play, she's not for me anyway. Most girls love it.
 
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