suikeisuru
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Can anyone think of a good neg hit for a hot chick with acne? I already # closed and want to have something up my sleeve for our get together next week.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Neg hit a hot girl with Acne
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Qmanchoo
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That's like saying "How to I bust on that chick at the bar with one leg?" Maybe walk up to her and say "Is your family tree a stump too???"
And yes, exactly like Shezz said - Neg hits are used to give people a reality check. Otherwise it's just wit and humor.
For instance people think C/F is this magic wand to get laid, however it happens naturally when a man who REALLY THINKS he's superior to a chick he's with speaks his mind about her and happens to be funny. Usually it's making fun of one of her behaviors since those are the easiest to observe and put a twist on.
Also, neg hits naturally happen when two confident/extremely comfortable people clash on an idea or situation... they both think they are the **** and both think the other needs a verbal beatdown.
The difference between what people naturally do and what we show here is that we add a funny twist, subtlety, and wit to what otherwise comes out naturally as an insult. Being perceived as unique and different is important. And if wit doesn't come out naturally and with spontaneity you will come across as trying to be funny, and no one likes that.
In sum: You've taken this out of context and you need to focus more on how reality works. All these "techniques" are natural expression of people personalities, lean how people work not how to plug some technique into your personality and you'll be much more successful in life and with women.
And yes, exactly like Shezz said - Neg hits are used to give people a reality check. Otherwise it's just wit and humor.
For instance people think C/F is this magic wand to get laid, however it happens naturally when a man who REALLY THINKS he's superior to a chick he's with speaks his mind about her and happens to be funny. Usually it's making fun of one of her behaviors since those are the easiest to observe and put a twist on.
Also, neg hits naturally happen when two confident/extremely comfortable people clash on an idea or situation... they both think they are the **** and both think the other needs a verbal beatdown.
The difference between what people naturally do and what we show here is that we add a funny twist, subtlety, and wit to what otherwise comes out naturally as an insult. Being perceived as unique and different is important. And if wit doesn't come out naturally and with spontaneity you will come across as trying to be funny, and no one likes that.
In sum: You've taken this out of context and you need to focus more on how reality works. All these "techniques" are natural expression of people personalities, lean how people work not how to plug some technique into your personality and you'll be much more successful in life and with women.
suikeisuru
Don Juan
OK OK. 
She is a HB9 BTW.
She is a HB9 BTW.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
There should be a child proof cap on neg-hits...
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Desdinova
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Neg hits are to knock women off their self-imposed pedestal. They help bring her down to your level so you can run game on her. You've already run your game and number closed. There's no need for a neg hit.
Also, neg-hits aren't necessarily for 9s and 10s. They're for women who think or believe they're 9s or 10s. I've seen very unattractive women who believe they're hot 5hit. Neg hits can be used just as effectively on them.
Also, neg-hits aren't necessarily for 9s and 10s. They're for women who think or believe they're 9s or 10s. I've seen very unattractive women who believe they're hot 5hit. Neg hits can be used just as effectively on them.
How can you ever say that a girl with acne is a HB9? The ratingsystem is being severly misused in this forum.Originally posted by suikeisuru
OK OK.
She is a HB9 BTW.
A 10 would be virtually impossible as there is no such thing as a 100% perfect woman. Keep in mind that a 9 is basically the hottest women around. They are as close to perfection as you can get. I can't see that any girl with acne can qualify as a 9..It simply isn't perfection...even though she can be hot as hell.
I know this has been debated in the forum many times, but stop throwing around 8, 9 and 10's. Be realistic!
Carmen Electra is an 8 at best. Elisha Cuthbert is an 8.. Eva Longria is a 9. Compare the chicks to these girls, and then give her a new rating...
Some people have lost their minds.
You only neghit if you dont want to seem like you are coming in below their social status standard. If anything, you should be giving a compliment to a hot girl with acne because she likely is very self-conscious.
You guys are missing the most important part of PU.... CALIBRATION. There is no pick up formula... "Approach the obstacle, opener, neg hit, DHV, isolate, blah blah" Learn how to calibrate, and be an interesting person, and you will have chicks all over your nutz.
You only neghit if you dont want to seem like you are coming in below their social status standard. If anything, you should be giving a compliment to a hot girl with acne because she likely is very self-conscious.
You guys are missing the most important part of PU.... CALIBRATION. There is no pick up formula... "Approach the obstacle, opener, neg hit, DHV, isolate, blah blah" Learn how to calibrate, and be an interesting person, and you will have chicks all over your nutz.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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If she's a HB9 with acne, then what is she when it clears up?
Get a reality check, bro. You might be the one that needs a - hit.
Get a reality check, bro. You might be the one that needs a - hit.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
I can see Elisha Cuthbert being an 8... Not me, but I mean, I could see how someone could see it, at least going off of what they see on TV.
an HB9 with Acne? what's next.. a HB9 with 3 eyes?
an HB9 with Acne? what's next.. a HB9 with 3 eyes?
blueangel83
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"Neg hits" USUALLY don't work on me because I end up dissing the guy 50 times worse.
One guy said something like I look like Michael Jackson
Another guy said I look like a candidate for "Ringu 2"
One guy said something like I look like Michael Jackson
Another guy said I look like a candidate for "Ringu 2"
Hound_of_Love
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Those aren't neg hits, they're insults.Originally posted by blueangel83
"Neg hits" USUALLY don't work on me because I end up dissing the guy 50 times worse.
One guy said something like I look like Michael Jackson
Another guy said I look like a candidate for "Ringu 2"
DinoCassanova
Senior Don Juan
dont do it you AFC dirtclown.
^^^ What he said. That's low , man. What the hell are you talkin about ???
^^^ What he said. That's low , man. What the hell are you talkin about ???
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
blueangel83
Senior Don Juan
What does AFC mean?
Nah those dudes were heavily flirting with me and laughing at the same time while saying that.
I usually say something like "well you're ugly so your opinion doesn't count"
Hit me with a neg, I want to know exactly what you are talking about.
Nah those dudes were heavily flirting with me and laughing at the same time while saying that.
I usually say something like "well you're ugly so your opinion doesn't count"
Hit me with a neg, I want to know exactly what you are talking about.
The way I see it, guys tend to have two different types of 1-10 scales.
One which I like to call the "Hot Girl" scale gives even very ****able girls scores in the 6-7 range - I mean, c'mon, Elisha Cuthbert isn't ugly. She's just not the hottest of the hot. This scale hardly registers most of the population - I'd say the 20% best looking of all girls populate the entire 6-9 range (10, of course, being impossible).
The other scale is the "Every Girl" scale. On this rating scale, each girl is rated based on her attractiveness compared to the general public. If a girl is more attractive that 50% of all girls then she is a 5. If she is hotter than 80% of all girls, she's an 8. And if, out of 100 girls, you could reasonably expect her to be the hottest then she's a 9.9 (or 10, depending on who you ask). A girl on this scale who may be an 8 (because she's hotter than 80% of all girls) might only be a 7 or a 6.5 on the other.
Hound_of_Love
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Negs have to have an element of compliment about them. They must be ambiguous in that respect.Originally posted by blueangel83
Hit me with a neg, I want to know exactly what you are talking about.
Classic one is, "nice blouse, my mother has one like it". First of all you're complimenting her blouse, but then she's thinking, "but does it make me look old...do I remind him of his mother...is he attracted to me...why isn't he attracted to me etc?".
qweretyuiopas
Master Don Juan
I have had acne for years and I still have it. Its like the biggest reason my confidence is so low and why i cant get any women, if you make fun of someone with ance it will hurt most of them more you will know, whether it is just a flareup or youve had it for years a comment like that is a low blow.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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