"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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AMDG said:
It means it's natural for a girl to try to control the frame. Post here if you have moved from the message realm to the physical one :D
I asked you something totally different.. If I play hot-cold, when I go hot, wouldn't that make her go cold? Looking forward to an answer..

PVF, I cannot go to her town (or she come to mine) just like that. At least I don't think we can. In two months we will meet, got a better idea?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Macki said:
I asked you something totally different.. If I play hot-cold, when I go hot, wouldn't that make her go cold? Looking forward to an answer..

PVF, I cannot go to her town (or she come to mine) just like that. At least I don't think we can. In two months we will meet, got a better idea?

And why not, is it that far apart?
 

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So you guys just can't meet... and you only talk through the internet... remind me again how this is not "internet love"?

TWO MONTHS?

I'm betting SHE imposed that timeline. There's NO way in hell that YOU said: Alright, let's wait TWO months.

Seriously?

I really hope you are going out with other girls as well, because if not, that could very well be two months of WASTED time.
 

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Am I speaking to myself? You (PVF) tell me to not start a conversation with her and make me go to another town just for her? What kind of an impression would that leave, nothing connected to being controlled, right?

Kailex, it was not, as I said 5 times, imposed by any of us.
 

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If it's not imposed, then why is there a deadline?

That's what I don't understand.
SOMEONE said two months.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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It's a school excursion. The only way to *normally* meet people from the same school - another town. Although she's asked me to come to her town a million times, I can't go just like that, so we've been looking forward to that excursion for to meet. Understood now?
 

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I'm beginning to understand.
Now if she's asked you a million times... WHY can't you go again?

I'm asking, because I'm sure myself and others here are curious about what is holding you back.
 

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Kailex said:
I'm beginning to understand.
Now if she's asked you a million times... WHY can't you go again?

I'm asking, because I'm sure myself and others here are curious about what is holding you back.
Well.. going like that to another city where you have nobody except for that girl seems to be a little obvious.. it makes no sense to act cold and in the same time travel 200 km for her.. Other way I wouldn't mind to go..
 

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I gave you sound advice, I didn't realize it was THAT far of a distance. I thought maybe 50 miles tops lol.

I've never done long distance relationships, so I will not give any input on that one. As it will just be my opinion/thoughts rather then experience.

Good luck though with whatever you end up doing. (some of my advice is still applicable when you hang)

:)
 

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pvf94 said:
I gave you sound advice, I didn't realize it was THAT far of a distance. I thought maybe 50 miles tops lol.

I've never done long distance relationships, so I will not give any input on that one. As it will just be my opinion/thoughts rather then experience.

Good luck though with whatever you end up doing. (some of my advice is still applicable when you hang)

:)
It is, getting to the hanging thing is harder ;)

Thank you :)
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Macki said:
It's a school excursion. The only way to *normally* meet people from the same school - another town. Although she's asked me to come to her town a million times, I can't go just like that, so we've been looking forward to that excursion for to meet. Understood now?
You're doing fine so far and there's enough noise on this thread to make you confused (pvf94 post was right on).

Hot and cold doesn't mean treating her poorly, it just means to be aloof once in a while. Talk to her a few times and then let a few days go by without contacting. I'm not saying anything about NC, just be unpredictable and leave her wondering where you stand, what your intentions are.

The opposite happens, when you go cold a bit, she will pursue you more. It's just to get her off the shell that sometimes people use in the beginning of relationships.

Eventually when her confidence is shaken and this goes for a while, she'll break down and want to talk about taking to the next step. If you sense this then it's time to move to confront her resistant behavior...
 

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Macki said:
If I play hot-cold, when I go hot, wouldn't that make her go cold?
Not at all, if she's interested. In fact you may start a very hot chain reaction in that case :)
 
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