need help w/ convo skills

[ogre]

and the moral of this story is....

"shorty" flaked - oh so predictable. I made alternate plans anyway - knowing this was gonna happen. and I called the russian and we have a movie date for monday.

russian girl: we have no chemistry and I get a 2nd date. that my convo with her was a flop seems irrelevant now.

shorty: we have big time chemistry and she flakes

why?

date w/ russian was monday and I had zero contact since then, I call, I get a date.

conclusion: 4 days is normally a good wait time. but in this case I should double it to compensate for being such an idiot and calling shorty the next day. if I'm too available my value goes down. so I have to get scarce.

 

[al77]

Re: and the moral of this story is....

Originally posted by ogre


1. "shorty" flaked - oh so predictable.

2. russian girl: we have no chemistry and I get a 2nd date. that my convo with her was a flop seems irrelevant now.
shorty: we have big time chemistry and she flakes
why?

3. conclusion:if I'm too available my value goes down. so I have to get scarce.

1. If the date was 5 hours, most likely...you have being LJBF without the explicit statement. Conclusion? Dont do LOOONG dates. Prfereably end it after 1 hours, end it yourself...

2. Ha... the world is not spinning around you. YOU thought you had chemistry... she didn't. Besides all people here would tell you: chemistry is nothing... high IL is everything. If she shows high IL, you got the next date.
So... consider thinking in terms of IL to predict whether you will have a second date.
I just remind you: women tend to show high IL if they smell you are a dating material with ponetial, i.e. with "money", but they call it "he knows where he is going in life". Probably shorty was not impressed with your presentation of your "where I am going in life" an the russian seems is more impressed. Very simple.
I am sure you knew taht before...

3. Yes. I think most women even test men on how available he is directly: if he is too available, she will just write him off....
It is like a requirement you have to meet.

 

[Chrispy]

ogre: try to avoid such long dates early in the game - from experience, we guys eventually become chumps as the minutes progress (by not cutting it off earlier) and/or bored/boring (again shoulda cut it off earlier!).