"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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What you think happened here? She never really had any interest from beginning ? We never hang out outside. I know I should have hidden my feelings more and call less and see her less often.

Any point to call her at some point ?
We have told you over and over and over again what happened in the other thread. You are refusing to actually believe it and keep wanting someone to say something else, now apparently starting a new thread to hopefully hear something else.

Honestly, I think you simply can't be helped, not because you can't be, but because you don't want to be.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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It isn’t always the case that you “Ignore what she says and go by what she does.”

There are times when women do tell you the truth verbally. She’s being honest with you. It was only a fling. Don’t catch feelings. If you already have, you have to walk away.

She actually gave you good closure. She could have just ghosted you, but she was honest with you about situation instead.
 

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You are a guy who is in love, nothing wrong, but you are in love with the wrong woman, nothing more nothing less. You want a woman who reciprocates what you give to her, not just a taker.

That only comes when you're happy by yourself enjoying hobbies, friends, focusing on your grind, having the best physique, living the best life you can live first for you. Only then is when the universe will throw you another woman to test you again if you removed the neediness.
I wished her well when she called to end things and i said if she wanted to sleep together sometimes or try again she has my number. And that was all. I don’t think she will reach out. She has no feelings.

Before this convo I asked out of anxiety if she was going to reach out sometimes and she said I don’t think so. But i left the door open for her anyways
 

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It isn’t always the case that you “Ignore what she says and go by what she does.”

There are times when women do tell you the truth verbally. She’s being honest with you. It was only a fling. Don’t catch feelings. If you already have, you have to walk away.

She actually gave you good closure. She could have just ghosted you, but she was honest with you about situation instead.
I told her we could take it slow or just keep it for sex but she didn’t want. She said something like I don’t now we can’t take it slow now that things have gone this fast. She also hinted I couldn’t handle the situation or something.

I hate to say it but I’m hoping she misses me and reaches out. My dad who is a pro with women said my mistake wasn’t neediness or this or that. He said women in fwb don’t need more than 2 to 3 times sex a month. More than that and she has to change her life for you and you aren’t married. He said there’s a good chance when she is horny she will call if I’m gone and let her miss me for a change
 

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What you think happened here?
- You were the one pushing for "something more" and she wanted to keep things casual when it should have been the other way around. Basically you adopted the feminine role, forcing her to adopt the masculine role. Problem is, 99% of the the time this doesnt work out because this dinamic dries their poosy.

- You ignored a good chunk of our advice

- You ignored her red flags.

There is more but you get the idea.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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- You were the one pushing for "something more" and she wanted to keep things casual when it should have been the other way around. Basically you adopted the feminine role, forcing her to adopt the masculine role. Problem is, 99% of the the time this doesnt work out because this dinamic dries their poosy.

- You ignored a good chunk of our advice

- You ignored her red flags.

There is more but you get the idea.
Yes plus the fact meeting her too often and me mostly initiating. In 3 months I never waited one time for her to ask me out. I did all the planing and asking.

Im very upset and sad man. I just want to reach out.

How can I turn this around ? I need to wait she reaches out ? I think in 3 months together now we broke up it’s gonna be her first time to taste what is even to be 2 days without me sending msgs.
 

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How can I turn this around ?
This is how you get her to come back: No contact. Get over her and move on. You cant fake it. It has to be the real deal. If you no contact, get over her, and move on; there is a good chance she comes running back. But you wont want her anymore.
 

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If she doesn’t reach out, is there any point to reach out to her after a few weeks?
My God. This is all that matters to you. The rest is just smoke and mirrors. All you're after is a Magic trick you can use to get her back.

INSTEAD of being happy she's gone so you can focus on other things . I swear men like you hate themselves.

May or ask you why do you even care? Did you even read your own fecking threads? With all the information you have now you should KNOW that 1. This would happen as we all could see it from ten miles away 2. Be satisfied with the outcome.

As I said in the other other thread; one last goodbey feck and she's gone. It all came true...
 
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My God. This is all that matters to you. The rest is just smoke and mirrors. All you're after is a Magic trick you use to get her back.

INSTEAD of being happy she's gone so you can focus on other things . I swear men like you hate themselves.

May or ask you why do you even care? Did you even read your own fecking threads? With all the information you have now you should KNOW that 1. This would happen as we all could see it from ten miles away 2. Be satisfied with the outcome.

As I said in the other other thread; one last goodbey feck and she's gone. It all came true...
You were right, It was one last good fack, she kissed passionately like never before. This was gonna happen sooner or later due to her past history. Thursday and Friday I blew up her phone repeating myself about some issue we had and she didn't like it at all. Probably was the last thing she needed to make a decision
 

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Yes plus the fact meeting her too often and me mostly initiating. In 3 months I never waited one time for her to ask me out. I did all the planing and asking.

Im very upset and sad man. I just want to reach out.

How can I turn this around ? I need to wait she reaches out ? I think in 3 months together now we broke up it’s gonna be her first time to taste what is even to be 2 days without me sending msgs.
You need to be born again, just like her. When you are reincarnated you might try it with her once more.

This life she is gone, and yes, that statement is meant to be both symbolic and literal.

Do you like to make threads about her so much that you want some more pain? You're into **** as well?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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You need to be born again, just like her. When you are reincarnated you might try it with her once more.

This life she is gone, and yes, that statement is meant to be both symbolic and literal.

Do you like to make threads about her so much that you want some more pain? You're into **** as well?
she left me less than 24 hours ago, I'm in pain bro
 

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she left me less than 24 hours ago, I'm in pain bro
She left you 3 weeks ago. This pain should be calculated as a possible risk.

This is not even a break up because there was no relationship. Why? Because this woman doesn't do relationships with men like you. Its either her chasing a dragon or a beta orbiter chases her. That's all she knows. And despite this she was being honest and respectful about it.

This is "dentist "pain. Neccessary to heal.
You are a guy who is in love, nothing wrong, but you are in love with the wrong woman, nothing more nothing less. You want a woman who reciprocates what you give to her, not just a taker.

That only comes when you're happy by yourself enjoying hobbies, friends, focusing on your grind, having the best physique, living the best life you can live first for you. Only then is when the universe will throw you another woman to test you again if you removed the neediness.
YES! Why don't men understand this concept?
 
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She is 35 and never had a serious relationship just flings and fwb type of relationship and has been with over 100 guys.
What happened here is she is damaged and unable to bond. It has NOTHING to do with you or anything you did or didn't do. Sure you probably could have kept things going longer if you didn't push so hard, but be clear, this girl was NEVER going to develop "feels" for you or want a 'relationship' with you.

Why are you taking this so personally? Look at her HISTORY! 35 and never had a relationship besides fwb, that is important information you should have paid attention to. Nothing to do with you.

Stop trying to save women and thinking yuu have some special power to turn a damaged woman unable to bond into a loving caring nurturing woman who will love you forever. That's delusional thinking.

Next time a girl says something like that to you, make the decision to keep her as a plate only, do NOT get invested and don't even think about having a relationship with her let alone a serious one.

Lastly, you are 41, figure out why it is you continue to fall for damaged women like this and unable to move on after it ends.

This indicates you are also damaged in some way.
 

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She never 'left' you, because you never had her. She didn't want a relationship and said she'd f*cked over a hundred dudes. You weren't special to her, we told you this. You still treated her like she was a f*cking unicorn and put her on a pedestal (that she didn't want to be on).

Then she went to go find someone who could give her d*ck without the woman problems you're giving her.
According to her she wasn't having sex before me for months.she said she would call a guy she knows, have sex and then not see him for another 6 months or so, and meanwhile call another. crazy
 

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What happened here is she is damaged and unable to bond. It has NOTHING to do with you or anything you did or didn't do. Sure you probably could have kept things going longer if you didn't push so hard, but be clear, this girl was NEVER going to develop "feels" for you or want a 'relationship' with you.

Why are you taking this so personally? Look at her HISTORY! 35 and never had a relationship besides fwb, that is important information you should have paid attention to. Nothing to do with you.

Stop trying to save women and thinking yuu have some special power to turn a damaged woman unable to bond into a loving caring nurturing woman who will love you forever. That's delusional thinking.

Next time a girl says something like that to you, make the decision to keep her as a plate only, do NOT get invested and don't even think about having a relationship with her let alone a serious one.

Lastly, you are 41, figure out why it is you continue to fall for damaged women like this and unable to move on after it ends.

This indicates you are also damaged in some way.
looking back when she told me we couldn't hangout outside just meet for sex at her house tv and food I should have left and told her to call me when she wanted to do some activities outdoors
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Did/do you believe her?
bro I wasn't giving her problems,i simply was taking more of her time I should have, seeing her twice a week, She didn't have time for her stuff and was getting stressed. Its not like I was asking for relationship man.. Example Monday and Wednesday she has body pump training's, Tuesday we meet , Thursday she goes see her nephew, Friday Saturday nd Sunday usually sleeps at her sister then at her moms to watch sports, she felt having me in her life like a rock in her shoe...l, she probably wanted something extremely casual like sex once a month or less
 

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What a surprising turn of events.

To answer your question, yes, you can definitely get her back and she will reach out to you for a serious relationship soon.
 

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The truth is, her ending things was a gesture only a formalism. In her mind, she was far gone a long time ago (meaning she had made the decision probably several weeks ago). If I remember correctly, you posted about her a few weeks back where you mentioned she was cooling off. Well, if you didn't do anything different to keep things alive back then, it is way past late now.

Like another member mentioned, she most likely found new d**k which is what she wanted in the first place.

Your task now is to review and learn. Which most likely is, if a girl is down to keep things casual, for the love of God keep it that way. Don't push for feelings or relationships. That's a feminine trait.
 

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The truth is, her ending things was a gesture only a formalism. In her mind, she was far gone a long time ago (meaning she had made the decision probably several weeks ago). If I remember correctly, you posted about her a few weeks back where you mentioned she was cooling off. Well, if you didn't do anything different to keep things alive back then, it is way past late now.

Like another member mentioned, she most likely found new d**k which is what she wanted in the first place.

Your task now is to review and learn. Which most likely is, if a girl is down to keep things casual, for the love of God keep it that way. Don't push for feelings or relationships. That's a feminine trait.
Maybe she found a new guy might be it. Or maybe she just got smothered seeing me too much
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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