"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I messaged this girl on myspace just for the hell of it. Wasn't expecting a response, in fact, just assumed that she was going to be a difficult customer.

I message her with this:
hey,
i'm a fun, attractive guy that will make you laugh. probably out of your league, but i'm a nice guy, i'll give you a try.

She comes back with this:
Don't do me any favors....besides I am probably out of your league!!!!

Have no idea what to say next.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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muscleman

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Nothing dude. Let's start with basics:

1) "I'm a fun, attractive guy that will make you laugh". Why are you qualifying yourself to a total stranger. 0 confidence.

2) "probably out of your league". -100000 confidence.

3) "but I'm a nice guy" ... wtf?

4) "I'll give you a try" <-- what does this have to do with anything you just said?

It's like, you deprecate yourself and then try to raise your value by sounding all ****y in 1 sentence.

Square 1 man, read the DJB.

With regards to myspace, in my experience your pics are #1. Nothing else really matters. If she's attracted, you don't need to say anything more than "hey how are you". If she's not, writing a book won't even do anything.
 

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Hey muscles, let some of that blood flow to your brain. You misunderstood that last line, it was 100% AFC too. But hey, it works sometimes...Anyways, Jack, you set the conversation in the wrong direction, but it isn't beyond saving. Try something like:

"You're probably right, but you might be wrong...how about we find out?" ;)
 

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well both of you are wrong. she, on her own, added me to her friends list.
 

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lulz! that doesnt mean **** dude. myspace is how chicks let you sublimate your feelings for them, TO GET YOU OFF HER BACK! she's not interested.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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You guys talk a big talk with all your "AFC" b.s. but like me, you're also on a site about how to deal with women. You don't know what you're doing either, otherwise you'd never have found this site.
 

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Hey dude. Like you just said you sent the message for the hell of it. The fact that you got a reply with out really trying must say something for you. So why not use that line that Alkali suggested.
 

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Troy, you're absolutely right. And sorry for lashing out.

This is indicative of a bigger problem: not being able to handle rejection of any kind, which is the reason I'm on myspace and not out on the field to begin with.

I take things way too personally. Any perceived rejection, let alone a real rejection, and I have a problem dealing with it. And it's something I have to get over if I expect to meet any women in person eventually.
 

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You're out of my league? I don't play league, I'm a free agent! Tell me what you got to offer before I'll come play with you!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Alkali

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JackBauer24 said:
You guys talk a big talk with all your "AFC" b.s. but like me, you're also on a site about how to deal with women. You don't know what you're doing either, otherwise you'd never have found this site.
Ouch. My pride!

Don't be too sure about people on this site though. I know quite a few people (myself included) that have no problems in this department. We're here to help and be entertained.

Now others, *cough* El Stud *cough,* genuinely need help.
 

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JackBauer24 said:
I messaged this girl on myspace just for the hell of it. Wasn't expecting a response, in fact, just assumed that she was going to be a difficult customer.

I message her with this:
hey,
i'm a fun, attractive guy that will make you laugh. probably out of your league, but i'm a nice guy, i'll give you a try.

She comes back with this:
Don't do me any favors....besides I am probably out of your league!!!!

Have no idea what to say next.
You: and the Emmy for best actress in a comedy or dramatic series goes to...
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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muscleman said:
Nothing dude. Let's start with basics:

1) "I'm a fun, attractive guy that will make you laugh". Why are you qualifying yourself to a total stranger. 0 confidence.

2) "probably out of your league". -100000 confidence.

3) "but I'm a nice guy" ... wtf?

4) "I'll give you a try" <-- what does this have to do with anything you just said?

It's like, you deprecate yourself and then try to raise your value by sounding all ****y in 1 sentence....
Bravo! I couldn't have said it any better.
 

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jackbauer24, why don't you post the myspace link of the HB that is out of your league, so the other dj (ie. lukeskywalker) can game her?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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JackBauer24 said:
well both of you are wrong. she, on her own, added me to her friends list.
Dude, that is why most women are on MySpace, social proof. Or more specifically, "See how many people I have on my friends list, I must be someone special!!!"
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Dude, that is why most women are on MySpace, social proof. Or more specifically, "See how many people I have on my friends list, I must be someone special!!!"

DILDO...:crackup: I MEAN DIDDO

nothing less than social proof..1,674 friends..i mean c'mon
 
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