"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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JackBauer24

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I messaged this girl on myspace just for the hell of it. Wasn't expecting a response, in fact, just assumed that she was going to be a difficult customer.

I message her with this:
hey,
i'm a fun, attractive guy that will make you laugh. probably out of your league, but i'm a nice guy, i'll give you a try.

She comes back with this:
Don't do me any favors....besides I am probably out of your league!!!!

Have no idea what to say next.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Nothing dude. Let's start with basics:

1) "I'm a fun, attractive guy that will make you laugh". Why are you qualifying yourself to a total stranger. 0 confidence.

2) "probably out of your league". -100000 confidence.

3) "but I'm a nice guy" ... wtf?

4) "I'll give you a try" <-- what does this have to do with anything you just said?

It's like, you deprecate yourself and then try to raise your value by sounding all ****y in 1 sentence.

Square 1 man, read the DJB.

With regards to myspace, in my experience your pics are #1. Nothing else really matters. If she's attracted, you don't need to say anything more than "hey how are you". If she's not, writing a book won't even do anything.
 
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Hey muscles, let some of that blood flow to your brain. You misunderstood that last line, it was 100% AFC too. But hey, it works sometimes...Anyways, Jack, you set the conversation in the wrong direction, but it isn't beyond saving. Try something like:

"You're probably right, but you might be wrong...how about we find out?" ;)
 
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JackBauer24

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well both of you are wrong. she, on her own, added me to her friends list.
 
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Create Reality

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lulz! that doesnt mean **** dude. myspace is how chicks let you sublimate your feelings for them, TO GET YOU OFF HER BACK! she's not interested.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You guys talk a big talk with all your "AFC" b.s. but like me, you're also on a site about how to deal with women. You don't know what you're doing either, otherwise you'd never have found this site.
 
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Hey dude. Like you just said you sent the message for the hell of it. The fact that you got a reply with out really trying must say something for you. So why not use that line that Alkali suggested.
 
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Troy, you're absolutely right. And sorry for lashing out.

This is indicative of a bigger problem: not being able to handle rejection of any kind, which is the reason I'm on myspace and not out on the field to begin with.

I take things way too personally. Any perceived rejection, let alone a real rejection, and I have a problem dealing with it. And it's something I have to get over if I expect to meet any women in person eventually.
 
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You're out of my league? I don't play league, I'm a free agent! Tell me what you got to offer before I'll come play with you!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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JackBauer24 said:
You guys talk a big talk with all your "AFC" b.s. but like me, you're also on a site about how to deal with women. You don't know what you're doing either, otherwise you'd never have found this site.
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Ouch. My pride!

Don't be too sure about people on this site though. I know quite a few people (myself included) that have no problems in this department. We're here to help and be entertained.

Now others, *cough* El Stud *cough,* genuinely need help.
 
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JackBauer24 said:
I messaged this girl on myspace just for the hell of it. Wasn't expecting a response, in fact, just assumed that she was going to be a difficult customer.

I message her with this:
hey,
i'm a fun, attractive guy that will make you laugh. probably out of your league, but i'm a nice guy, i'll give you a try.

She comes back with this:
Don't do me any favors....besides I am probably out of your league!!!!

Have no idea what to say next.
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You: and the Emmy for best actress in a comedy or dramatic series goes to...
 
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Francisco d'Anconia

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muscleman said:
Nothing dude. Let's start with basics:

1) "I'm a fun, attractive guy that will make you laugh". Why are you qualifying yourself to a total stranger. 0 confidence.

2) "probably out of your league". -100000 confidence.

3) "but I'm a nice guy" ... wtf?

4) "I'll give you a try" <-- what does this have to do with anything you just said?

It's like, you deprecate yourself and then try to raise your value by sounding all ****y in 1 sentence....
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Bravo! I couldn't have said it any better.
 
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jackbauer24, why don't you post the myspace link of the HB that is out of your league, so the other dj (ie. lukeskywalker) can game her?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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JackBauer24 said:
well both of you are wrong. she, on her own, added me to her friends list.
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Dude, that is why most women are on MySpace, social proof. Or more specifically, "See how many people I have on my friends list, I must be someone special!!!"
 
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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Dude, that is why most women are on MySpace, social proof. Or more specifically, "See how many people I have on my friends list, I must be someone special!!!"
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DILDO...:crackup: I MEAN DIDDO

nothing less than social proof..1,674 friends..i mean c'mon
 
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