I went on 2 dates with this HB8 and we had lots of fun and established lots of rapport. Waited a few days and invited her to come over and watch a movie, and she said she was busy. She has been giving me lots of IOIs that she likes me. She also counteroffered to hang out on the weekend, and I told her maybe. What should my next move be, to remain mysterious and to move things along?
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
My next move after couple of dates?
- Thread starter Bettis76
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Colinski282
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She may have actually been busy to which why she may have counter-offered, if you like her then take her up on it....but not sounding needy/desperate. If she counter-offers then say sure if i have free time on that given day. Dont become harsh to her. Your next move? Take her up on the counter-offer bro. Tell her you found a spot in your busy schedule this weekend to hang out.
Colinski gave sound advice. Take her up on the counter offer. People are genuinely busy sometimes, and when they are they counter-offer. Don't play games and throw an unneccessary wrench in an otherwise simple process.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I'd take her up on her offer too but she may have changed her mind by acting like a disappointed AFC by first telling her "maybe." You could have just said that you would have to check to see if you were free. Do something like that again and she'll think that you've lost interest.
Set something up for yesterday and the chick flaked on me a few hours before the date with an obvious BS excuse. She showed VERY high interest on our last date and IDK, but it seems that she is playing games with me. Do I next her or give her one more chance?
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I guess she lost interest first. Well, live and learn; next.Bettis76 said:Set something up for yesterday and the chick flaked on me a few hours before the date with an obvious BS excuse. She showed VERY high interest on our last date and IDK, but it seems that she is playing games with me. Do I next her or give her one more chance?