"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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my looks get me again...

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So after what happened the other night, I'm in need of some serious help. Another girl who I have/had feelings for told me that she couldn't see past my looks. I'd say she was a 7.5, and I'm like a 2 or 3. Later in the night she told me that the kind of guy I am is perfect for her and is a real turn on. Damn, any suggestions?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Well...

Well K.F, it doesn't seem like you need that much help. The girl has given you an IOI by telling you that "you're the guy for her". Although you may see yourself as a 2 or 3, she obviously doesn't or she wouldn't have told you that you turn her on. The only thing that you have to do now is keep your head on straight. Treat her like she's just another girl, make yourself a challenge and she'll be fiending. That's what I do.
 
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King Frodo said:
So after what happened the other night, I'm in need of some serious help. Another girl who I have/had feelings for told me that she couldn't see past my looks. I'd say she was a 7.5, and I'm like a 2 or 3. Later in the night she told me that the kind of guy I am is perfect for her and is a real turn on. Damn, any suggestions?
What is it about your appearance that she finds unnattractive?
 

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sounds like she was trying to soften the blow after feeling like she'd harshed you.

ok. first - IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT YOU HAVE FEELINGS FOR HER.

it doesn't matter what you want. it only matters what you can get them to want.

so get over her. get out of that relationship and don't let yourself get into a "friendship" like that again.

never be in a situation where you're wondering if she "likes you" or not. no more.

always always always SIMPLY ASK THEM OUT. if they say no, you get an IMMEDIATE answer and you can move on without getting invested.
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why are you a 2 or 3? describe.

there are LOTS OF THINGS that one can do. 2 or 3 is pretty bad and it means that you're not trying. why stay that way if you can change?

some here say that looks don't matter. i'm not of that opinion. unless you're filthy rich, famous, powerful, etc.

take thom yorke from radiohead, the guy is skinny as a rail and has a lazy eye but he can still score (married now)... lots of disenfranchised men look to him as their hero and idol and say, well if thom can pull it off with what he's got to work with, then i won't change... i can do it too!

but the critical difference is that he's a FAMOUS MUSICIAN!!!

(this is a mistake that many nerd guys make when they idolize famous nerds who succeed with chicks. they overlook the overriding factor that they're FAMOUS!)

if you're a regular schlub, you gotta do what you can to make the rest of the package as presentable as possible!

delta
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Roffl! 2 or 3. Hire or prostitute or attract girls with your money.
 

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Ok I read this.
What is the problem?
She's into you.
 
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