"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Devintems

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I'm halfway through The Rational Male, which is one of the best books I've found on this subject. I have to consider myself a rAFC according to his definition. I hate it, but it's undeniable. Reading this book has been one of the most painful experiences for me because I thought I wanted answers, but I didn't know that I was wrong.

More than once I considered going full MGTOW because of the feeling of hopelessness I felt. But I owe myself more.

Here is a list of laws for myself to follow in the course of my remediation.

1. Rejection is final. Whether token rejection or not, I will not pursue someone past initial rejection to protect myself against ONEitis.

2. Never apologize. Not only is this fundamentally Beta, but it makes me feel like crap, and I'm very prone to feeling like crap.

3. Third date sex. Waiting past this is nothing but pursuing rejection.

4. If I feel like crap after a date, I will not talk to her again.

5. A self proclaimed feminist is off limits, even as a friend. Even if she is confused about what it actually is, it's like a Jew and a Nazi. One will end up sending the other to a concentration camp eventually.

This is not complete, but it's all I can think of right now. This is mainly for my remedial stage anyway until I educate myself better and can take more risks.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Alpheta

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never apologise.

PLease elaborate. I find this interesting. How does this help a situation?
 

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One thing that I found helpful for myself, along with some you mentioned.

If there is any question in my mind after the date about her IL, I walk away until pursued. Basically, if you need to talk to a friend, this forum, anyone about "how it went" it didn't go well.

I try not to over-analysis (one of my worst habits) But, patients has been a tool that has helped since I evaluated my weaknesses.

Keep it up!
 

Devintems

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Alpheta said:
never apologise.

PLease elaborate. I find this interesting. How does this help a situation?
The way I see it. Apologizing places myself as the submissive and her as the dominant. This can only help if this role reversal can be played to your advantage with a girl who is already thoroughly gamed. I'm not in a position at this point of my journey to allow that kind of role reversal.
 

marmel75

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Devintems said:
I'm halfway through The Rational Male, which is one of the best books I've found on this subject. I have to consider myself a rAFC according to his definition. I hate it, but it's undeniable. Reading this book has been one of the most painful experiences for me because I thought I wanted answers, but I didn't know that I was wrong.

More than once I considered going full MGTOW because of the feeling of hopelessness I felt. But I owe myself more.

Here is a list of laws for myself to follow in the course of my remediation.

1. Rejection is final. Whether token rejection or not, I will not pursue someone past initial rejection to protect myself against ONEitis.
That's pretty horrible advice to be honest. It would be like being a salesman and the first time the customer raised an objection just walking away. All that is going to do is prevent you learning how to deal with situations properly that will allow you to get laid at a much higher rate. Sure, some women will just go along with it just like in sales, sometimes you have to do very little work to get the sale. The difference between a good salesman and one who is unemployed is how good they can overcome objections from their customers, and it's no different with women.

Running away at the first sign of rejection is a weak approach and will not help you improve your skills. It will protect your ego which obviously is fragile but it won't teach you anything worthwhile.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Yewki

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Keep in mind you're putting up walls and blocking out opportunities for yourself with these rigid laws of yours. You can use them as a starting point, but be careful because soon enough they will be holding you back.
 
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