"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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My Game Is Excellent, I Just Never Notice Or Think Of Ways To

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bring things to the next level. I have girls eating out of the palms of my hands left and right, but I never really notice when I'm alone with a girl and/or am given a golden opportunity to escalate. I just continue to work game, when really I've done all I need to and I should invite her to "watch tv" in a private room or "go outside and starwatch"....I just don't even think of it. I OVERGAME, and it screws me up pretty often.

What are some ways of getting myself to snap out of game mode and just take it into "getting with her" mode? I never realize that I had a perfect opportunity until AFTER! I want to realize then and there!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Ice882 said:
bring things to the next level. I have girls eating out of the palms of my hands left and right, but I never really notice when I'm alone with a girl and/or am given a golden opportunity to escalate. I just continue to work game, when really I've done all I need to and I should invite her to "watch tv" in a private room or "go outside and starwatch"....I just don't even think of it. I OVERGAME, and it screws me up pretty often.

What are some ways of getting myself to snap out of game mode and just take it into "getting with her" mode? I never realize that I had a perfect opportunity until AFTER! I want to realize then and there!
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Your mindset if wrong. You shouldn't be working "game" all the time to just sleep with her. Let things flow naturally, let her get comfortable with you, start slowly by holding hands, rubbing her neck, kissing her. Not "lets go watch tv and have sex". It doesn't work that way. Girls like guys who do things SLOW, pay attention to detail, make them comfortable.
 
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DonJuan11 said:
Your mindset if wrong. You shouldn't be working "game" all the time to just sleep with her. Let things flow naturally, let her get comfortable with you, start slowly by holding hands, rubbing her neck, kissing her. Not "lets go watch tv and have sex". It doesn't work that way. Girls like guys who do things SLOW, pay attention to detail, make them comfortable.
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No no, I'm talking about girls who I've known for a while. Usually just fail to strike when the iron is hot, and golden opportunities to escalate (not neccesarrily sex) pass me by.
 
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Learn to be HUMAN again, not a Picup Up Robot.
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I'm not at all a pickup robot. I don't use any canned lines. I don't THINK about being C+F. I don't actively use any gaming tricks.

What I do is I get the girls attracted, feel it, and then just keep flirting like a dumbas$, when I should be making a move.

I'm asking: What is the best way to transition from flirting into a makeout? I suck at that particular step in getting intimate with a girl.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I've done this before - trying to build attraction when it was already built and I should have been making a move instead. Part of the problem is guys are so clueless about the subtle signals girls give you. They're giving you the go ahead signal and you're thinking "how can I build attraction?". A common principle is always assume they want you, it's probably not bad advice.
 
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This is my problem exactly. I will be officially following this thread.
 
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bump. anyone wanna respond? This is really important.
 
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It seems you're not taking a risk. If you have built up that attraction, then just pull the trigger and go in for the kiss. Don't think, OK I've built attraction now how do I go about initiating sex. Think about that kiss first which will not be hard if you have properly created attraction. Next time you're alone, and there's a pause, just stroke the back of hair head and go in.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I do the same thing... but the reason is cause I already have a girlfriend. My advice... just do it. Whats the problem? Grow some balls.
 
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Raven80 said:
It seems you're not taking a risk. If you have built up that attraction, then just pull the trigger and go in for the kiss. Don't think, OK I've built attraction now how do I go about initiating sex. Think about that kiss first which will not be hard if you have properly created attraction. Next time you're alone, and there's a pause, just stroke the back of hair head and go in.
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You know what, you are absolutely right. But do you think its necessary to be alone? For example tonight I was watching a movie with friends and this girl I just met and I put my arm around her and she was snuggled up against me while we were watching and I probably could have gone for it....Do you think that's a bad idea? Also, if that WOULD have been a bad idea, how could I have isolated her in that situation? I don't have much practice doing that. (Anyone feel free to answer).
 
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