"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

Read more...

My Game Is Excellent, I Just Never Notice Or Think Of Ways To

I

Ice882

Senior Don Juan
Joined
May 23, 2009
Messages
451
Reaction score
19
bring things to the next level. I have girls eating out of the palms of my hands left and right, but I never really notice when I'm alone with a girl and/or am given a golden opportunity to escalate. I just continue to work game, when really I've done all I need to and I should invite her to "watch tv" in a private room or "go outside and starwatch"....I just don't even think of it. I OVERGAME, and it screws me up pretty often.

What are some ways of getting myself to snap out of game mode and just take it into "getting with her" mode? I never realize that I had a perfect opportunity until AFTER! I want to realize then and there!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

D

DonJuan11

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 16, 2007
Messages
1,667
Reaction score
35
Ice882 said:
bring things to the next level. I have girls eating out of the palms of my hands left and right, but I never really notice when I'm alone with a girl and/or am given a golden opportunity to escalate. I just continue to work game, when really I've done all I need to and I should invite her to "watch tv" in a private room or "go outside and starwatch"....I just don't even think of it. I OVERGAME, and it screws me up pretty often.

What are some ways of getting myself to snap out of game mode and just take it into "getting with her" mode? I never realize that I had a perfect opportunity until AFTER! I want to realize then and there!
Click to expand...
Your mindset if wrong. You shouldn't be working "game" all the time to just sleep with her. Let things flow naturally, let her get comfortable with you, start slowly by holding hands, rubbing her neck, kissing her. Not "lets go watch tv and have sex". It doesn't work that way. Girls like guys who do things SLOW, pay attention to detail, make them comfortable.
 
I

Ice882

Senior Don Juan
Joined
May 23, 2009
Messages
451
Reaction score
19
DonJuan11 said:
Your mindset if wrong. You shouldn't be working "game" all the time to just sleep with her. Let things flow naturally, let her get comfortable with you, start slowly by holding hands, rubbing her neck, kissing her. Not "lets go watch tv and have sex". It doesn't work that way. Girls like guys who do things SLOW, pay attention to detail, make them comfortable.
Click to expand...

No no, I'm talking about girls who I've known for a while. Usually just fail to strike when the iron is hot, and golden opportunities to escalate (not neccesarrily sex) pass me by.
 
I

Ice882

Senior Don Juan
Joined
May 23, 2009
Messages
451
Reaction score
19
Allurre said:
Learn to be HUMAN again, not a Picup Up Robot.
Click to expand...
I'm not at all a pickup robot. I don't use any canned lines. I don't THINK about being C+F. I don't actively use any gaming tricks.

What I do is I get the girls attracted, feel it, and then just keep flirting like a dumbas$, when I should be making a move.

I'm asking: What is the best way to transition from flirting into a makeout? I suck at that particular step in getting intimate with a girl.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

Read more...

zekko

zekko

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 6, 2009
Messages
16,806
Reaction score
10,039
I've done this before - trying to build attraction when it was already built and I should have been making a move instead. Part of the problem is guys are so clueless about the subtle signals girls give you. They're giving you the go ahead signal and you're thinking "how can I build attraction?". A common principle is always assume they want you, it's probably not bad advice.
 
P

prairiedog24

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Mar 29, 2009
Messages
298
Reaction score
13
This is my problem exactly. I will be officially following this thread.
 
I

Ice882

Senior Don Juan
Joined
May 23, 2009
Messages
451
Reaction score
19
bump. anyone wanna respond? This is really important.
 
R

Raven80

Don Juan
Joined
May 22, 2009
Messages
29
Reaction score
0
It seems you're not taking a risk. If you have built up that attraction, then just pull the trigger and go in for the kiss. Don't think, OK I've built attraction now how do I go about initiating sex. Think about that kiss first which will not be hard if you have properly created attraction. Next time you're alone, and there's a pause, just stroke the back of hair head and go in.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

Read more...

P

Perseus

Don Juan
Joined
Aug 1, 2009
Messages
33
Reaction score
0
Age
46
I do the same thing... but the reason is cause I already have a girlfriend. My advice... just do it. Whats the problem? Grow some balls.
 
I

Ice882

Senior Don Juan
Joined
May 23, 2009
Messages
451
Reaction score
19
Raven80 said:
It seems you're not taking a risk. If you have built up that attraction, then just pull the trigger and go in for the kiss. Don't think, OK I've built attraction now how do I go about initiating sex. Think about that kiss first which will not be hard if you have properly created attraction. Next time you're alone, and there's a pause, just stroke the back of hair head and go in.
Click to expand...

You know what, you are absolutely right. But do you think its necessary to be alone? For example tonight I was watching a movie with friends and this girl I just met and I put my arm around her and she was snuggled up against me while we were watching and I probably could have gone for it....Do you think that's a bad idea? Also, if that WOULD have been a bad idea, how could I have isolated her in that situation? I don't have much practice doing that. (Anyone feel free to answer).
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
22 Rules for Massive Success With Women
Top