"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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My Game Is Excellent, I Just Never Notice Or Think Of Ways To

Ice882

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bring things to the next level. I have girls eating out of the palms of my hands left and right, but I never really notice when I'm alone with a girl and/or am given a golden opportunity to escalate. I just continue to work game, when really I've done all I need to and I should invite her to "watch tv" in a private room or "go outside and starwatch"....I just don't even think of it. I OVERGAME, and it screws me up pretty often.

What are some ways of getting myself to snap out of game mode and just take it into "getting with her" mode? I never realize that I had a perfect opportunity until AFTER! I want to realize then and there!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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DonJuan11

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Ice882 said:
bring things to the next level. I have girls eating out of the palms of my hands left and right, but I never really notice when I'm alone with a girl and/or am given a golden opportunity to escalate. I just continue to work game, when really I've done all I need to and I should invite her to "watch tv" in a private room or "go outside and starwatch"....I just don't even think of it. I OVERGAME, and it screws me up pretty often.

What are some ways of getting myself to snap out of game mode and just take it into "getting with her" mode? I never realize that I had a perfect opportunity until AFTER! I want to realize then and there!
Your mindset if wrong. You shouldn't be working "game" all the time to just sleep with her. Let things flow naturally, let her get comfortable with you, start slowly by holding hands, rubbing her neck, kissing her. Not "lets go watch tv and have sex". It doesn't work that way. Girls like guys who do things SLOW, pay attention to detail, make them comfortable.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
Your mindset if wrong. You shouldn't be working "game" all the time to just sleep with her. Let things flow naturally, let her get comfortable with you, start slowly by holding hands, rubbing her neck, kissing her. Not "lets go watch tv and have sex". It doesn't work that way. Girls like guys who do things SLOW, pay attention to detail, make them comfortable.

No no, I'm talking about girls who I've known for a while. Usually just fail to strike when the iron is hot, and golden opportunities to escalate (not neccesarrily sex) pass me by.
 

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Allurre said:
Learn to be HUMAN again, not a Picup Up Robot.
I'm not at all a pickup robot. I don't use any canned lines. I don't THINK about being C+F. I don't actively use any gaming tricks.

What I do is I get the girls attracted, feel it, and then just keep flirting like a dumbas$, when I should be making a move.

I'm asking: What is the best way to transition from flirting into a makeout? I suck at that particular step in getting intimate with a girl.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I've done this before - trying to build attraction when it was already built and I should have been making a move instead. Part of the problem is guys are so clueless about the subtle signals girls give you. They're giving you the go ahead signal and you're thinking "how can I build attraction?". A common principle is always assume they want you, it's probably not bad advice.
 

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This is my problem exactly. I will be officially following this thread.
 

Ice882

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bump. anyone wanna respond? This is really important.
 

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It seems you're not taking a risk. If you have built up that attraction, then just pull the trigger and go in for the kiss. Don't think, OK I've built attraction now how do I go about initiating sex. Think about that kiss first which will not be hard if you have properly created attraction. Next time you're alone, and there's a pause, just stroke the back of hair head and go in.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I do the same thing... but the reason is cause I already have a girlfriend. My advice... just do it. Whats the problem? Grow some balls.
 

Ice882

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Raven80 said:
It seems you're not taking a risk. If you have built up that attraction, then just pull the trigger and go in for the kiss. Don't think, OK I've built attraction now how do I go about initiating sex. Think about that kiss first which will not be hard if you have properly created attraction. Next time you're alone, and there's a pause, just stroke the back of hair head and go in.

You know what, you are absolutely right. But do you think its necessary to be alone? For example tonight I was watching a movie with friends and this girl I just met and I put my arm around her and she was snuggled up against me while we were watching and I probably could have gone for it....Do you think that's a bad idea? Also, if that WOULD have been a bad idea, how could I have isolated her in that situation? I don't have much practice doing that. (Anyone feel free to answer).
 
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