"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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My FB started turning into a relationship

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I've had a FB for about 3 months and we were friends before so I didn't feel comfortable just making it about sex. We hang out a lot too. So now it's starting to get like a relationship and it turns out as I got to know her she's pretty great. Only thing is a term's starting up (in other words, crazy partying) and there's this other girl digging me that's fine as hell, and I feel like I'd connect with too. I'd want to try hanging out with this other girl a bit if I can, but I feel like it's gonna be a jerk move if I don't establish the relationship with this FB soon (not jerk that girls secretly love, just straight up jerk!)

Always go for risky, shinier prospects? If I fvck up stuff with the girl I'm kinda with right now, I'll probably be pretty pissed. But being single is where it's at for January...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Halloween

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Why stay with your "FB"? You will gain valuable life experience at:

(1) staying with a girl, despite all the seemingly better offers out there (ie willpower)

(2) retaining an exciting and fun relationship over a longer period of time

(3) getting to appreciate and know someone more deeply (which you've already begun)

Basically, this site places a lot of emphasis on the initial short-term part of a relationship, but I want to stress there's a whole lot more to relationships than that, and it doesn't suddenly become "easy" after the f-close.

HOWEVER, it sounds like you're feeling a little bit trapped in the relationship with your FB. If that's the case, it's going to cause you more grief than good in the long run.

It's not a jerk move to not establish a relationship if you're not ready. I would argue the opposite.

Sorry, that was kinda rambly. But my two cents.
 

Allurre

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She's your FB, why not keep it that way? If your conscience goes on a guilt rush, then reconsider what you want your relationship status with her to be. Ask yourself, is she absolutely girlfriend material?
 
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