Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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my ex is a celebrity now, how can i get her back [merged threads]

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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"ex is a celebrity" cdy4261

ok so some of you actually had good stuff to say

i think im going to write her a letter and give it to her parents...
she's hard to catch when she's in town

i was actually thinkin bout going to one of her autograph signings..and giving her the letter saying hey.. and jot down my info in the letter...

is this a good idea?

(oh and does anyone know how to disable the box that say"you have reached the maximum number posts within a 1440 time period for this session"...or else i have to keep reposting new ones
 

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lol

Never appear at an autograph signing. Did you even think that through?

Chasing her around, probably driving 30 minutes out of the way after seeking out the date of her arrival like some type of obsessed fan. Then waiting in line like all the other autograph seekers?

How you think she's gonna think of you? Leave a message with her parents or hopefully see her there. Good luck
 

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Dante is right.

What's next, you're gonna join her fan club in order to have exclusive access to her? Wrong frame!

Go to her house. Better yet, if she was too busy for you back then, why would she be less busy now?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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taylor swift . i didnt even know who she was until kanye made her a celebrity.
 

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what's a "kanye"?
 

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its obviously taylor swift by the way.

but yes, frame is huge here. you need to treat her like you treated her back then. i always think its funny when guys deal with models, or stars, and don't get me wrong, its very easy to slip into it, but as an actor i've learned how to avoid it i guess.

Stars like that don't walk around thinking in their head, I'm a ****ing star...Well maybe kanye does. She walks around like a normal person.

If you come back into her life, in a confident, manly fashion, she will not think, i bet he wants my money. After all the reason you left was noble, you were defending our country. It's not like you nailed her, left then came back for her fame.

So come back in the frame. Swing by her house and say hey, i'm back, and we're going to dinner to catch up. I'll give you 5 minutes to get ready. Treat her like you'd have treated her before she was a star, because that's what she wants.

Any other questions feel free to ask. Of course this is just my two cents, but I think you'll find it will help.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ALRIGHT,

if this girl is a big celebrity than you should just move on for a while

I cant believe so many posters on THIS site would encourage you to try something

she is meeting tons of cool people and is probably really busy, her old lifestyle is probably a little boring and she has a lot of forward momentum, shes meeting tons of guys and isnt getting married soon

just do your own thing and maybe in a few years you can reconnect when shes a little more jaded and you have a better game plan
 

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This loser needs to get a fvcking life...he was never with a celebrity hes just some pathetic afc with one itis.
 

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you have to be able to demonstrate higher value.. its going to be especially hard because shes a "huge celebrity in your own words. Think of how many "high value" guys are around her
 

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okay this is an update..

so i wrote her a letter and swung by her house this afternoon.
she wasnt home- but her parents remembered who i was and greeted me in.
we talked about life and what not
anyways..i gave them the letter and told them to give it to her.
they were TOTALLY cool about it...
they were like yeah of course we can do that
all smiles..great vibes..ANNNNNDDDDD


I GOT HER NEW NUMBER...now.....i dont think i want to text her..lol, im tryin to work this out perfect...or as perfect as possible. any suggestiions...but i think im going to wait for her to get the letter..which has my contact info in it.

the letter mainly consisted of reminiscing about really fun times we had together...im tryin to get her to laugh and put me at the forefront in her mind.

should i wait till she calls or call her out of the blue ?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Mere Fanatasies

It is very obvious this poster has some fantasies. This is another thread of his regarding another rich top model ( I assume) that works in a cruise ship and spends on him frivolously.
 

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Hullothere said:
you have to be able to demonstrate higher value.. its going to be especially hard because shes a "huge celebrity in your own words. Think of how many "high value" guys are around her
Word is out that Tommy Motola and Puff Daddy are already working on her.
 

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i didnt plan on coming here to "brag" or make "fantasies"

look im sorry your lives are boring and you cant come to terms with yourself as to how i managed to score such a lucky catch..

im just lookin for advice on what to do

IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME...THEN QUIT READING/POSTING
haha, you say its not true..but you keep reading-
 
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If you really had a relationship with this girl, what is the fear in calling her? Assuming you guys ended up on good terms, she probably at least used to like you, and being the military could only raise her image of you. Also, if you left a not with her parent, they 100% told her that you stopped by or whatever so it wouldn't be completely out of the blue. Most importantly though, if she doesn't want you to be part of her life it will be perfectly obvious in the conversation, then you will know whether it is time to move on or not.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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