"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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My challenge to you! (1 day to double your success)

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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jaeger

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Hey MOTU,

I'm intrested in the challange. This would be a good experiment to test my current social skills. And considering I've been in a LTR for 1,5 years (and still am) I could really use the practice.

That being said, here's my reply on your questions

1) What do you think?
What if the girl is really giving me her number but I don't actually want it :D, because I think this challange is pretty much provoking me to ask just about anybody for her number. You ever had that before, that just when you asked the number you don't want it anymore?

example: You see a HB8, she starts to talk and you notice she's pretty wierd. Then you ask for the number, but while she's giving it to you, you start to think "Sh!t, I'm not gonna call this wierdo".
(This seems to happen rather often to me when I'm tipsy)

Yeah, my thoughts often drift off pretty far, sorry about that :nervous:, you asked thought!

2) What are your greatest concerns?
None atm, probebly at that point of time: "hopefully my gf won't find out and start nagging :D" and also: *thinking to myself* "Sh!t I hate rejection"

3) Do you feel this will be of benefit, or not? And why?
Socials skills can only be improved by practice. For practice, having competitions or challanges is just good motivation to work on specific area's of your life. Therefor I have no doubt it will benefit the people who join this challange.

That being said, next week I'm executing the challange, I presume I have to report here? (I'll reanswer your questions then again, to see any change of heart)

Jaeger
 

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What ended up happening with this? I cant find where he posted the details to the event
 

Deicide

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I'm interested. I've only been regularly approaching women for the past 4 weeks but I want to keep improving and gain more confidence. During this time, I've approached about 40 women, but there is still a lot of work to do.
Edit:
1) What do you think? I think it would help me a lot as closing is still a problem for me.

2) What are your greatest concerns? Getting kicked out of a place for approaching.

3) Do you feel this will be of benefit, or not? And why? Yes, it could help me get over my fear of closing and increase my confidence.

4) What is the best day for us to do this? When I go to the city again, preferably a place like Nashville.
 

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I'll do it..

approached about 12 so far (small town, could've done more big city) ...so what are you proposing?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Masculinity

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I'm up for the challenge and excited to hear points of view!
 

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Double my dating in 1 day!
I am so in.

Count me in.
I aired my cellphone number on the radio so I got 300 text messages from girls wanting to go out on a date with me.
Plus T.V. plus internet personals.
Plus newspaper ads
Plus street pick
Plus networking through friends
and I have more women more than I could handle.
I win!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I'm down for it. What are you gonna do, make us approach couples in the middle of making out? Chellenge meatheads to fistfights?
 

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I'm not reading 5 pages.

I'm 28 years old and have 0 cold approaches in my entire life. That's right. None. Zip. Zilch. I'm absolutely terrified. Every time I'm about to cold approach a woman, I chicken out. Its like something inside me just freezes and won't let me do it.

I'm interested.
 

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grr im intrested , lets hear from the op =P
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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excellent post. but the challenge descriptions are missing. this thread needs to be somewhere up!
 

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MOTU you should definitely come back and finish up this thread bro!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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