mushroomhead
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Ok that should good to me.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
My approach is this any good or i need something better ?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
mushroomhead
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I will never tell that to a girl.
Don_Joffe
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ulfur: I think your small steps process is GREAT infact its BEYOND WORDS!
Do you guys not see how simple and easy and great his small steps are? It will sky rocket your confidence. Thanks man, I think I may just be able to complete week 3 of my bootcamp tommorw because of this advice.
Do you guys not see how simple and easy and great his small steps are? It will sky rocket your confidence. Thanks man, I think I may just be able to complete week 3 of my bootcamp tommorw because of this advice.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
ulfur
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glad it's making sense.
knight56:
start off with a very simple question like "where is the nearest bank/subway/xyz place" once the girl has responsed say thanks and move on. even if the girl doesnt know where that place is, the important thing is you've just talked to a random girl.
once you've comfortable with that, ask "where's a good place to eat around here." often the case, the girl will start asking questions back like "what kind of food do you like". doesnt matter what you say at this stage, in fact try and wing it and see how you do. say thanks and move on...
now reflect..... if you followed the small steps, you've just talked to 20 random girls --- how easy was that??
knight56:
start off with a very simple question like "where is the nearest bank/subway/xyz place" once the girl has responsed say thanks and move on. even if the girl doesnt know where that place is, the important thing is you've just talked to a random girl.
once you've comfortable with that, ask "where's a good place to eat around here." often the case, the girl will start asking questions back like "what kind of food do you like". doesnt matter what you say at this stage, in fact try and wing it and see how you do. say thanks and move on...
now reflect..... if you followed the small steps, you've just talked to 20 random girls --- how easy was that??
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Only because they know there are 10 other girls who will say hi back, so stop fretting on the one that didnt and go find the 10 that will.
DJHoolahoop
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well if your shyness had anything to do with mine, it was being afraid to say anything in case they didn't like me or not being interesting to them, etc..
but more times than not, if you're not acting like a retard and are able to do some kind of C&F jokes then they're usually up all over ya.
The thing is though is that what i thought was the case for girls wasn't and it turns out that they're easier to approach than previously thought. All they really look at is that a guy is coming up to them talking.
Just don't act like a tard or she won't want nothing to do with you.
As for your approach earlier in this post, I say drop it because I don't see why you need to talk on the phone to do that? What about talking on the phone makes it easier as opposed to asking her if you weren't "on the phone"?
but more times than not, if you're not acting like a retard and are able to do some kind of C&F jokes then they're usually up all over ya.
The thing is though is that what i thought was the case for girls wasn't and it turns out that they're easier to approach than previously thought. All they really look at is that a guy is coming up to them talking.
Just don't act like a tard or she won't want nothing to do with you.
As for your approach earlier in this post, I say drop it because I don't see why you need to talk on the phone to do that? What about talking on the phone makes it easier as opposed to asking her if you weren't "on the phone"?
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Ok your approaching so that is positive. But now you need to take it to the next level. You see asking a girl you don't know how late the bus is coming, is an icebreaker but not more than that. You need her interest level up, quick.
Go direct. You can use Sharks line: "I like you, I wanna get to know you". No c+f sh*t just this. You see when your new to this stuff actually saying that line to a strange girl is hard. Because you must let go of your ego. Now after this opener you must have solid game. For example in this case at the busstop: first you ask her name, you can ask were she is going, what she's going to do, if she had a fun weekend stuff like that. It opens her up and will give you enough leads to go into some rapport like 5-10 min, then close.
I don't use Sharks line, but did use it for practice. And the results are never bad after all even if you get shot down you will feel great for having done the approach.
This one I use in daytime: "Hey...I think you have a pretty smile, don't you?". Give her a smile, and you will get one back. Then it's on.
Forget the excuser stuff it's much more work and less effective.
Go direct. You can use Sharks line: "I like you, I wanna get to know you". No c+f sh*t just this. You see when your new to this stuff actually saying that line to a strange girl is hard. Because you must let go of your ego. Now after this opener you must have solid game. For example in this case at the busstop: first you ask her name, you can ask were she is going, what she's going to do, if she had a fun weekend stuff like that. It opens her up and will give you enough leads to go into some rapport like 5-10 min, then close.
I don't use Sharks line, but did use it for practice. And the results are never bad after all even if you get shot down you will feel great for having done the approach.
This one I use in daytime: "Hey...I think you have a pretty smile, don't you?". Give her a smile, and you will get one back. Then it's on.
Forget the excuser stuff it's much more work and less effective.