mushroomhead
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Ok that should good to me.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
My approach is this any good or i need something better ?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
mushroomhead
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I will never tell that to a girl.
Don_Joffe
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ulfur: I think your small steps process is GREAT infact its BEYOND WORDS!
Do you guys not see how simple and easy and great his small steps are? It will sky rocket your confidence. Thanks man, I think I may just be able to complete week 3 of my bootcamp tommorw because of this advice.
Do you guys not see how simple and easy and great his small steps are? It will sky rocket your confidence. Thanks man, I think I may just be able to complete week 3 of my bootcamp tommorw because of this advice.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
ulfur
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glad it's making sense.
knight56:
start off with a very simple question like "where is the nearest bank/subway/xyz place" once the girl has responsed say thanks and move on. even if the girl doesnt know where that place is, the important thing is you've just talked to a random girl.
once you've comfortable with that, ask "where's a good place to eat around here." often the case, the girl will start asking questions back like "what kind of food do you like". doesnt matter what you say at this stage, in fact try and wing it and see how you do. say thanks and move on...
now reflect..... if you followed the small steps, you've just talked to 20 random girls --- how easy was that??
knight56:
start off with a very simple question like "where is the nearest bank/subway/xyz place" once the girl has responsed say thanks and move on. even if the girl doesnt know where that place is, the important thing is you've just talked to a random girl.
once you've comfortable with that, ask "where's a good place to eat around here." often the case, the girl will start asking questions back like "what kind of food do you like". doesnt matter what you say at this stage, in fact try and wing it and see how you do. say thanks and move on...
now reflect..... if you followed the small steps, you've just talked to 20 random girls --- how easy was that??
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Only because they know there are 10 other girls who will say hi back, so stop fretting on the one that didnt and go find the 10 that will.
DJHoolahoop
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well if your shyness had anything to do with mine, it was being afraid to say anything in case they didn't like me or not being interesting to them, etc..
but more times than not, if you're not acting like a retard and are able to do some kind of C&F jokes then they're usually up all over ya.
The thing is though is that what i thought was the case for girls wasn't and it turns out that they're easier to approach than previously thought. All they really look at is that a guy is coming up to them talking.
Just don't act like a tard or she won't want nothing to do with you.
As for your approach earlier in this post, I say drop it because I don't see why you need to talk on the phone to do that? What about talking on the phone makes it easier as opposed to asking her if you weren't "on the phone"?
but more times than not, if you're not acting like a retard and are able to do some kind of C&F jokes then they're usually up all over ya.
The thing is though is that what i thought was the case for girls wasn't and it turns out that they're easier to approach than previously thought. All they really look at is that a guy is coming up to them talking.
Just don't act like a tard or she won't want nothing to do with you.
As for your approach earlier in this post, I say drop it because I don't see why you need to talk on the phone to do that? What about talking on the phone makes it easier as opposed to asking her if you weren't "on the phone"?
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Ok your approaching so that is positive. But now you need to take it to the next level. You see asking a girl you don't know how late the bus is coming, is an icebreaker but not more than that. You need her interest level up, quick.
Go direct. You can use Sharks line: "I like you, I wanna get to know you". No c+f sh*t just this. You see when your new to this stuff actually saying that line to a strange girl is hard. Because you must let go of your ego. Now after this opener you must have solid game. For example in this case at the busstop: first you ask her name, you can ask were she is going, what she's going to do, if she had a fun weekend stuff like that. It opens her up and will give you enough leads to go into some rapport like 5-10 min, then close.
I don't use Sharks line, but did use it for practice. And the results are never bad after all even if you get shot down you will feel great for having done the approach.
This one I use in daytime: "Hey...I think you have a pretty smile, don't you?". Give her a smile, and you will get one back. Then it's on.
Forget the excuser stuff it's much more work and less effective.
Go direct. You can use Sharks line: "I like you, I wanna get to know you". No c+f sh*t just this. You see when your new to this stuff actually saying that line to a strange girl is hard. Because you must let go of your ego. Now after this opener you must have solid game. For example in this case at the busstop: first you ask her name, you can ask were she is going, what she's going to do, if she had a fun weekend stuff like that. It opens her up and will give you enough leads to go into some rapport like 5-10 min, then close.
I don't use Sharks line, but did use it for practice. And the results are never bad after all even if you get shot down you will feel great for having done the approach.
This one I use in daytime: "Hey...I think you have a pretty smile, don't you?". Give her a smile, and you will get one back. Then it's on.
Forget the excuser stuff it's much more work and less effective.