My 30s

[Epicwinguy]

If I was a loser with women in my 20's, have no degree, and make a small annual income, what should I do in my 30s to turn this all around? Will I be able to have short flings with women? I will throw everything away if I need to in order to get what I want, which is to sleep with 10+ women by the time I am 40. Things look hopeless right now. Should I take a massive gamble and take out the college loans I need? Should I spend 2+ years working in sales and doing nothing else? Can I still get my notch count to 10 before I am 40?

 

[Ricky]

in many ways my 30s were my best decade
Always work on your mindset. You need to be positive

 

[SW15]

Bachelor's degrees are often worthless. That may not be the solution.

Having good looks is the best way to get laid. Having money helps, but top tier on looks without money can get laid. That works better when younger, because when women evaluate men 35+, they want to see more money. Height, hair, and money (thanks @Mike32ct ) are the 3 big criteria for women in evaluating mature men (35+).

You need to focus on muscles, money, and game, per Rollo Tomassi. Make sure you look good. Get the IOIs and make the approaches.

 

[BMX]

You need to become competitive. Challenge yourself through big fitness goals. Not only weightlifting but cardio too. Challenge your mind, not necessarily with a degree as previously stated. I went and got my first I.T. certification yesterday, which probably means more than my weak B.S. degree from years ago. I'm trying to stay competitive and looking at going and getting another cert this summer with a little more effort next time. Pay more attention to your personal hygiene now that you're in your 30s. The federal contractors I worked with used to always tell us to buy at least three colognes and three watches --- a casual one, a sports watch and a dress watch. Clean up your dress clothing and business casual attire options as well. You can have nice things now.

 

[Plinco]

If I was a loser with women in my 20's, have no degree, and make a small annual income, what should I do in my 30s to turn this all around? Will I be able to have short flings with women? I will throw everything away if I need to in order to get what I want, which is to sleep with 10+ women by the time I am 40. Things look hopeless right now. Should I take a massive gamble and take out the college loans I need? Should I spend 2+ years working in sales and doing nothing else? Can I still get my notch count to 10 before I am 40?

What do you want exactly? Be specific.

 

[Murk]

Go see some escorts to get the taste for it, start looksmaxxing and go for easy targets (HB5 and below), build up that experience/confidence, keep looksmaxxing, keep using HB4s and 5s as target practice. Baby steps. It's said a lot but it's so true... get in the fcking gym! Gym and looksmaxing should be priority, you don't need money to smash 10 women, you need money for LTR's with HB8+. To smash 10 women you just need to look half-decent (not be fat) and not be a weirdo. Can you do that? Can you go to the gym and start speaking to women?

 

[Bingo-Player]

At 31 theres one thing i can say for certain is that the quality of pu$$y i have had so far in my 30's was way way way above anything i got in my 20's

My standards have definitely increased

I had a lot of experience in my 20's though with a wide range of women and it definitely helps

As others have said if you are a complete rookie with them just start targeting girls beneath you , chances are these girls will be desperate for male attention so the chances of you being rejected are slim to none

Forget about swipe apps

 

[Epicwinguy]

Go see some escorts to get the taste for it, start looksmaxxing and go for easy targets (HB5 and below), build up that experience/confidence, keep looksmaxxing, keep using HB4s and 5s as target practice. Baby steps. It's said a lot but it's so true... get in the fcking gym! Gym and looksmaxing should be priority, you don't need money to smash 10 women, you need money for LTR's with HB8+. To smash 10 women you just need to look half-decent (not be fat) and not be a weirdo. Can you do that? Can you go to the gym and start speaking to women?

I'm a weirdo and have no idea how to fix it

 

[escaleraroyal]

You can. there are numerous fat chicks out there looking for love.

 

[Epicwinguy]

You can. there are numerous fat chicks out there looking for love.

The ones with low enough standards are all missing teeth. That's disgusting and I just can't.

 

[Plinco]

What do you want exactly? Be specific.

@Epicwinguy This is your problem. Drifting through life and not knowing what you want is pretty demoralizing.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Go see some escorts to get the taste for it, start looksmaxxing and go for easy targets (HB5 and below), build up that experience/confidence, keep looksmaxxing, keep using HB4s and 5s as target practice. Baby steps. It's said a lot but it's so true... get in the fcking gym! Gym and looksmaxing should be priority, you don't need money to smash 10 women, you need money for LTR's with HB8+. To smash 10 women you just need to look half-decent (not be fat) and not be a weirdo. Can you do that? Can you go to the gym and start speaking to women?

This should be standard advice for guys starting out or facing challenges. Very good post.

 

[Epicwinguy]

What do you want exactly? Be specific.

A Monday-Friday schedule and enough income to only need one job. A way to afford college. The type of personality I need to attract women for ONS and FWB.

 

[Plinco]

A Monday-Friday schedule and enough income to only need one job. A way to afford college. The type of personality I need to attract women for ONS and FWB.

That's not specific. Go to college for what reason?

A goal should be specific enough to draw out action plans.

You want a personality to attract women? That's very vague.

 

[Pacman50]

in many ways my 30s were my best decade
Always work on your mindset. You need to be positive

How can one work on their mindset? Is there any audiobooks I can listen to to help?

 

[BillyPilgrim]

How can one work on their mindset? Is there any audiobooks I can listen to to help?

I'm sure others know much more but the quick and dirty version is to try and accentuate and reinforce the thoughts you want and try and diminish the ones you don't want. It's a muscle that builds with exercise.

For example if you want to get rich and stop playing video games, you remind yourself regularly to think of ways to make money, and try and stop and redirect your thoughts towards money when you catch yourself starting to think about video games.

 

[Epicwinguy]

That's not specific. Go to college for what reason?

A goal should be specific enough to draw out action plans.

You want a personality to attract women? That's very vague.

A degree opens doors to better pay in career fields with good work/life balance.
And by personality I mean I want whatever those guys fatter, uglier and more broke than me who get laid have that I don't. I'm told not to try by people I know, but women gravitate towards guys as attractive or less attractive than me.

 

[Plinco]

A degree opens doors to better pay in career fields with good work/life balance.
And by personality I mean I want whatever those guys fatter, uglier and more broke than me who get laid have that I don't. I'm told not to try by people I know, but women gravitate towards guys as attractive or less attractive than me.

Here are some examples from myself:

I want to become more politically influential:

That means practicing my speaking abilities by going to county government meetings and speak about an issue in the public forum. I also practice my speaking abilities by making videos on social media platforms. For the upcoming election season, I have contacts in the republican party to which I plan on leading a local effort to get good candidates in locally and nationally. The better communicator I am, the better I am able to direct efforts politically.

I want to be a semi-professional fighter:

I train every other morning before work on striking and weight lifting.
I train in sparring four days per week.
I take private lessons once per week.
I take Ju-Jitsu lessons twice per week.
I have a diet planned out in order to slow down my aging process and build muscle, and maintain a high degree of health.
I take nine different supplements every day to also do the above.

To maintain my lawn business:

I follow a schedule to keep my business organized in order to keep all of my residential and commercial customers happy.
I have a checklist of all supplies needed.
I have a maintenance checklist for all 12 pieces of equipment I own.


etc, etc, etc,

 

[Plinco]

A degree opens doors to better pay in career fields with good work/life balance.
And by personality I mean I want whatever those guys fatter, uglier and more broke than me who get laid have that I don't. I'm told not to try by people I know, but women gravitate towards guys as attractive or less attractive than me.

I challenge you to dig deep inside and tell me exactly what you want in life. What makes you happy? What makes you unhappy?

I believe your problem is that you really don't know what you want in life. You can't get what you want unless you know what you want. And that goes for taking risks, being happy, living as opposed to being boring, etc.

 

[Plinco]

How can one work on their mindset? Is there any audiobooks I can listen to to help?

First learn how to think properly. I took a writing course back in 2003 which helped me a lot. You think the same way you speak, which is also related to how you write (proper grammar, sentence structure, etc). I also recommend listening to the audio lector "The Art of Thinking" by Leonard Peikoff.

After learning how to think and speak clearly, you should have a better idea on what you want so that you don't end up like "epicwinguy" and work toward those goals/actions plans. As you do, you'll start living a life worthy of respect. The more you respect yourself, the more people will be inclined to respect you; sometimes even then you have to enforce that though.