"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Moving things along with Amanda.

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Okay, her's the scoop. There's this girl in band, her names Amanda and I want to go for that sh*t. The problem ofcourse is, we never have any time to talk. We're either marching or she's always surrounded by her friends and sh*t. So when should I approach her?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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every chick i ever knew named amanda seemed sweet and innocent at first and later turned into the most indecisive person i ever knew.
theres always something in a name.
 

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The Sperminator said:
Lmao I was going to say the same thing. Amandas are bad news lol.
That's good and all, but when should I talk to her?
 

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What part of "Amanda's are bad news" don't you understand? You shouldn't talk to her. Move on!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Nah, I'm talking to her. I just need to know WHEN I can talk to her. If you're not going to help me with the problem in the thread and you're surely NOT going to encourage me, don't even bother.
 

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You are just making excuses. You want the perfect time to approach but there will never be a "perfect time" Dont be intimidated by her friends. Seperate her from her friends and do your thing.
 

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Skel said:
You are just making excuses. You want the perfect time to approach but there will never be a "perfect time" Dont be intimidated by her friends. Seperate her from her friends and do your thing.
Okay seperate her from her friends... That's good. Question is, how do I do that? Especially like if I'm in a rush or something?
 

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Why seperate them? Charm them all.
 

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j3sus lad - do you want us to do it for you? c'mon, your making this into a BIG thing, when its nothing...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Big thing? It's not a big thing. If I ask something, I seek an answer. I'm not asking you on advice on how to approach her, I can do that, but I'm unsure of where I should. C'mon dude, I've approached 20 girls in one night, trust me, approaching is not the problem.
 

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ElStud said:
Big thing? It's not a big thing. If I ask something, I seek an answer. I'm not asking you on advice on how to approach her, I can do that, but I'm unsure of where I should. C'mon dude, I've approached 20 girls in one night, trust me, approaching is not the problem.
I don't see a problem here. Me, personally I'd approach the whole group, but if u don't wanna do that I give u another idea.

If u can't go to her, let her come to you.
When she is with her friends, yell "Amanda, get over here for a second" and then u tell her that u wanna talk to her alone sometime.
 

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penkitten said:
every chick i ever knew named amanda seemed sweet and innocent at first and later turned into the most indecisive person i ever knew.
theres always something in a name.
Interesting you say this. I've dated a girl named amanda before and it never worked out! She broke up with me two or three times I believe then, always came back wanting me! :crazy:
 

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I.A.F.Y.B. said:
Interesting you say this. I've dated a girl named amanda before and it never worked out! She broke up with me two or three times I believe then, always came back wanting me! :crazy:
ive known i dunno at least 50 amandas and they all seemed sweet and innocent at first and then you realize that they cant seem to make their minds up about things.
i know its a bad thing to do, but name association is just something i do.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Cornerstone of the Mystery Method: open the guys, or the ugliest girl. Try to get Amanda to butt in to the conversation.

You might want to order his book and all, if you're really into it. It's the truth: truly beautiful women are not alone in public, basically ever.
 
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