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Master Don Juan
And that gentlemen, is what most of you wannabe DJs do not understand.taiyuu_otoko said:It's not Morality in an of itself that is attractive to some women, but the fact that he has convictions he's willing to stick by.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
And that gentlemen, is what most of you wannabe DJs do not understand.taiyuu_otoko said:It's not Morality in an of itself that is attractive to some women, but the fact that he has convictions he's willing to stick by.
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
You're kidding, right?Trader said:Take Tim Tebow - star QB for Florida. Every girl wants him. Now of course it's because he is a Heisman Trophy Winner on the #1 football team in the US. But there is something else that is uniquely attractive about him. Tim Tebow is known for being a *goody goody* - he even admitted in a press conference that he is still a virgin.
It is a unique combination - a man who is so powerful and dominant on the football field, destroying his competition, overpowering them, yet he is so holy, almost divine, a man who uses his power for good (think back to all the comic book fantasies with the good superhero) That is the *father figure* girls are looking for. A man she can look up to - not just in terms of power, but also spirtually and morally - he has a type of halo surrounding him, like a demi-god.
Every girl would choose a Tim Tebow over the run-of-the-mill bad boy.
Trader said:Then I read this thread on sosuave - http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=164976 where convicted murderers have girls sending them love letters.
Then there is the famous Oscar Wilde quote: 'The husbands of very beautiful women often belong to the criminal classes.'
If you would have read my original post - you would have noticed that I said that girls have priorities.STR8UP said:You're kidding, right?
Two men side by side, all else equal. One man has fukked 50 women. The other is a virgin. The women are going to be more attracted to the virgin?
You are trying too hard to paint your "morality" as a virtue in the mating game. It is NOT. If anything, it is a liability.
It's not because women are attracted to immorality or "bad" qualities in and of themselves, it is that they are attracted to a man who puts himself above all others, including her.
Women don't WANT the guy with 50 million dollars, they want the guy who displays the qualities a guy who has 50 million dollars displays.
Women don't WANT a guy who snaps necks with his bare hands, they want a guy who knows he can snap someones neck, should the need arise.
Women don't WANT a guy who cheats, they want a guy who is capable of cheating.
It isn't the act, it's the attitude.
Make sense now?
There is nothing about "morality" that flips any sort of an attraction switch in a woman's lizard brain. There is nothing about spirituality in a man that turns a woman on sexually.
A woman definitely wants (needs) to "look up to" a man, but not because he's a goody-goody. Absolutely not. She wants to look up to a man who represents physical and mental strength. Masculinity.
Your under the assumption that the guy who is banging you has "won" something. I have no idea how you treat your guys, and Im not going to judge it based on your posts here, to be fair. Most girls I know that are dating 'good' guys walk all over them, and are cvnts.iqqi said:Yeah, noone wants to hear that the good guy could win.
That's no fun, and leaves nothing to b!tch about.![]()
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Trader, in my first reply I said that women subjectively label/mislabel a guy moral or immoral based on her attraction to him. Women generally are poor judges of character and morality. When you are a subjective emotional creature as a woman, then being objectively moral man is irrelevant. I'll give you a partial agreement in that women like to believe and claim they like a man who is moral. But for a woman to believe that, it isn't really dependent on the man actually being a good guy or moral. Like I said before, you can get women inspite of being a good guy, but it's not because of you're a good guy.Trader said:If you would have read my original post - you would have noticed that I said that girls have priorities.
They place physical and mental strength (masculinity) ABOVE morals.
We agree on this. No girl will choose the moral AFC over the bad boy.
A girl FIRST looks for masculinity in a man
But AFTER that, morality comes into play.
If a girl has a choice between 2 guys - both are masculine and dominant, but one has character and the other doesn't - then she will choose the guy with character.
Yes - girls are poor at judging character and morality. But eventually, your true colors will come out. If she catches you cheating for example, well then it becomes patently obvious.Stagger Lee said:Trader, in my first reply I said that women subjectively label/mislabel a guy moral or immoral based on her attraction to him. Women generally are poor judges of character and morality. When you are a subjective emotional creature as a woman, then being objectively moral man is irrelevant. I'll give you a partial agreement in that women like to believe and claim they like a man who is moral. But for a woman to believe that, it isn't really dependent on the man actually being a good guy or moral. Like I said before, you can get women inspite of being a good guy, but it's not because of you're a good guy.
Oh stop making sh!t up. I've been around plenty of criminals, and this is just bullsh!t. All the stereotypes about them are about 100% dead on. He11 most of them are too dumb to even think about having a 'code'.guru1000 said:Most criminals have a stronger sense of integrity (adherance to their code) than law abiding citizens.
Zing!horaholic said:Your under the assumption that the guy who is banging you has "won" something.
piranha45 said:Zing!
the iqqi troll embodies the very attitude we must unlearn. not that this is news, or anything of the sort... its a shame the administration doesn't care.
What is being left out of the discussion here, and is so often left out on this forum, is personality. A nice girl will want the type of characteristics you describe. Whereas a woman with no morals, or loose morals, is not going to be so concerned about them, and will seek out a partner who is more compatible with her bad behavior lifestyle. This has been my observation at least.iqqi said:The things that turn me on about him are things that are preached against here, but SHOULD make the most sense. Like morality, kindness (NICE GUY), thoughtfulness, chivalrous nature, and he is not afraid to make it clear that he is serious about being with me.
This is true among the warrior type criminals: mafia, drug dealers, bank robbers, murderers.guru1000 said:Don't confuse integrity, character and morals.
Most criminals have a stronger sense of integrity (adherance to their code) than law abiding citizens. The difference lies in whether the LAWS they CHOOSE to break are in conflict with their code.
A law-abiding mind will compromise hie RULES (code) to surrender to the law. A criminal will act within his code even if it conflicts with the law.
It is this strict adherence to his rules regardless of COST that makes the bad boy attractive.
Morals per se have little to do with attraction. It is what is behind those morals (self constructed) and what you are willing to sacrifice to adhere to these morals that makes the difference.
Luther, stay away from subjects you are not aware of. Unfortunately (for me), I have a little more knowledge on this subject than you.Luthor Rex said:Oh stop making sh!t up. I've been around plenty of criminals, and this is just bullsh!t. All the stereotypes about them are about 100% dead on. He11 most of them are too dumb to even think about having a 'code'.
iqqi said:Great post, and I completely agree.
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
And here, gentlemen, we see the reverse of the Myth of the Quality Woman - the Myth of the Quality Man. Any guy / girl meeting with the temporal approval of another intimate is ALWAYS perceived as "quality". It's an ego preservation function to presume we are always discriminating enough to invest our time into another person wisely, irrespective of the reality or the subjective observations of others. Every person we've ever ƒucked was a quality person while we we're ƒucking,...up until the point that we weren't.iqqi said:I am am seeing a guy right now who breaks all of the rules and thought processes here at sosuave, and one of the things that is most attractive of all to me is that he seems so moral and strong.
No preacher I know has ever wanted for poon. If you run a group or organization and there are women there you will get laid by someone if you want. Not because of morality, but because of your power as a leader. David Koresh, Manson, the pastor at my church who can't leave his secretaries alone.Rollo Tomassi said:If morality were the hallmark of attraction pastors, priests and patricians would have women clambering over each other to get with them.
No they don't get her panties wet, but that isn't why she's fvcking the nice guy. Oh she may like the sex and may like him. But those are pvssy investments into future securities. Now the a$$hole...thats just sex for fun.Danger said:I can't even begin to count how many "middle age" women hit on me despite my being an a$$hole.
She may very well LIKE nice guys, but in no way do they get her panties wet.....I don't think "crave" is the right word to use here.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.