"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Modes of Communication

Obsidian

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I would like to know if phones are really better (in all circumstances) than email and other text-based services. I've never particularly liked phones, and one of the girls I'm dealing with atm seems really shy. Wouldn't it be just as good to use email or w/e if she seems comfortable with it? Or at least to start out with...

Thoughts, please.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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the only time when txt or email is better than phone is if the girl sounds like a guy or your mother.
 
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"Email is for geeks and pedophiles." - Sebastian Valmont

Haha, but seriously, email should never be use instead of telephone communication. Of course, you can use a nicely written email to supplement your other interactions (with the benefit being time to think and plan carefully what you will say) but it is never a replacement for real-time communication.

Ask yourself this; do you want to use email because she is shy, or because you are shy?
 

everywomanshero

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I use voice and texting both. I almost never use IM or email, but I would definitely go IM over email. I pretty much never email anyone, except for business purposes.

My thoughts: If a chick is just sitting around waiting for email, that's probably not someone who is going to be someone I'd want to bother knowing anyway.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Thomas94305

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The real question is.. is phone or text better to do WHAT? If you're busy, she's busy at a particular time.. email's great. Crap, we communicate through this board, and never call each other.

As for starting things with a woman, building attraction, cutting down on the flaking... I find phone calls are the route to go. If she just gives email, then don't count on much from her. You want to make things between you seem as natural as possible as quickly as possible. A woman that throws you in the email zone now has given you another hurdle to get through. You have to go from email to phone to hanging out, vs phone to just casually going and doing something.
 

Ace_McGregor

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What's the big deal? You call her up, set-up the date, and BAM! that's it. You're only on the phone for a couple of minutes. Why would you use text or email... seems like it would be harder to me.
 

everywomanshero

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Text is mostly useful for quick, witty messages, at least that's what I use it for a lot or just tidbits of useless trivia type ****. It can also be useful if you're still green and have trouble getting someone to pickup (this happens to a lot of guys during the newbie mission phase). You can have some interesting txt and then she might pickup, but then it's really so damaged controlled it's not even funny.

I don't just call and get off the phone real fast, though unless I've already gotten a really good timebridge and I know she's beyond down, in many cases I actually make them ask me out more than once before I meet them again. I stay on the phone with them a lot and pretty often. In this way they have already decided to sleep with me by the time we've met. I also get very very little LMR by running solid game, actually I never got much LMR when I didn't run solid game, but I did get a lot of buyer's remorse.
 

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Also, according to Mystery's 7 hour rule*, phone game is included too.

*The 7 hour rule is that it takes 7 hours from meeting a woman to having sex with her.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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