"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Mixed signals

Aesthetix29

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okay so if you're getting mixed signals off a girl .. Would it be a good idea to call them out on it? Or maybe say something 'Can't figure you out' ? Or does this make you look weak ?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I think this forum and myself would recommend just to NEXT.... a mixed signals means NOT INTERESTED from her part but she'll take advantage of you.

Just walk away from the date.... action over words.

No point of making her hate you..
 

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Women who are interested don't give mixed signals. You are her backup plan at best.
 

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facing this with ex. last 2 months she kept 'communication' but the her-way rule.

Never clear, You need always to guess what she's saying, or better, what she is not saying. If you point to specific communication you want get clarified, she will maybe say, can we see each other to talk about this? But this is only postponing to a meetup that will never happen.

Upon last Saturday, I asked to face me with her reality. Again, avoiding, keeping the line, literally "maybe you don't understand what I'm saying" as you narrow her possibilities with you.
24h later she posted a picture on her Facebook (as profile pic!) with her new 'victim'.

I stop communication. Sure she will pop-up again when she needs ...

This has for me nothing to do about being girl or not. This just having disrespectful toxic relations with people and is not linked because female.

As I look backward now to my relationship with her, she spook often badly/negatively about people she had/have a close relationship with (new friend of her mother, another ex, her sisters).
If I look back, also in the relationship, the communication with her was always unclear. Actually, she doesn't communicate. She takes, and she leaves.

Good luck new boy with that ego you need to spoil.
 
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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There's no need to call her out on anything, just simply escalate.

If you escalate and she rebuffs you but keeps playing games, there is nothing to figure out. You have your answer, she won't fück you, which is good because now you can remove her from your life and find a girl who is interested and doesn't waste your time.

If you are confused make your intentions very clear and the path will illuminate itself.
 

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okay so if you're getting mixed signals off a girl .. Would it be a good idea to call them out on it?
Lol. No bro.

I don't think it's a good idea to tell a girl "You can't change your mind like that. Once you give me hints that you may want to have sex with me you HAVE TO follow through no matter what else I say or what else the market offers you. I need you to be constantly in love with me at all times or else I won't be able to focus."

Or maybe say something 'Can't figure you out' ? Or does this make you look weak ?
Yes bro. 100% it makes you look weak. You are not supposed to 'figure her out.' She is supposed to 'figure you out.' She is supposed to be confused. She is supposed to be wanting sex. She is supposed to get mixed signals.

Come on men. We are expected to lead the nation. Girls cannot be this hard to figure out.
 

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Lol. No bro.

I don't think it's a good idea to tell a girl "You can't change your mind like that. Once you give me hints that you may want to have sex with me you HAVE TO follow through no matter what else I say or what else the market offers you. I need you to be constantly in love with me at all times or else I won't be able to focus."



Yes bro. 100% it makes you look weak. You are not supposed to 'figure her out.' She is supposed to 'figure you out.' She is supposed to be confused. She is supposed to be wanting sex. She is supposed to get mixed signals.

Come on men. We are expected to lead the nation. Girls cannot be this hard to figure out.
That's the whole point...we aren't supposed to try and figure them out. We are supposed to do what we do. If they want to be a part of it, great. If not, then great. Either way it doesn't matter.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I'm still new to the whole ghosting game. Silence was never my strong suit. I'm at 70 NC on a 5 year off and on plate. It's tough and effective. I used to worry that ghosting guaranteed me failure so I would keep trying to no avail. I'm starting to see that the outcome is going to be the same either way - you don't get the girl - but at least this way I have some dignity. Having said that, I still question my strategy on this everyday. Fear of missing out or FOMO.
 

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okay so if you're getting mixed signals off a girl .. Would it be a good idea to call them out on it? Or maybe say something 'Can't figure you out' ? Or does this make you look weak ?
No you just become too busy for them snd move on.
 

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okay so if you're getting mixed signals off a girl .. Would it be a good idea to call them out on it? Or maybe say something 'Can't figure you out' ? Or does this make you look weak ?
How many times do I have to say it? If a woman does not submit she has low interest.

Women are designed to SUBMIT. This is why most women are sheep and followers. Remember how the women in France sided with the Nazi's after they were conquered. What does this tell you? Women submit. Period. So if submission is not happening.. that is a crystal clear sign that you have no power over that woman. No power means she is not interested.

MEN: If you cannot lead a woman you are WASTING YOUR TIME with her. Period.
 

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Anything but a yes is a sign of low interest.

Skip the fun & games you invariably get with mixed signals and move on to a high interest chick.

You do not want to become an orbiter.
 

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In my opinion the best medicine for fear of missing out=spin plates.

Get to the point where you've dated and fvucked enough of them to know that you're really not missing out. They're pretty much all the same.
True enough. Except this one freely gives anal. That's pushes her a little past "the same" on the sexual curve.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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If you get a mixed signal: Smile, say "okay," and stop taking it so seriously. If a girl does something you don't like or is confusing you, have the balls to know what you want to do next and do it.
 
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