"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Me: "OK, Let's just go out a friends.", but then make a move?

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I told you guys already that I've called a bunch of girls but I haven't had any of them agree to hang out with me. They'll eventually tell me that they're seeing someone.

I'm thinking of just saying "Let's go out as friends" but then make a move if the opportunity presents itself. What do you guys think about this?

Also I was wondering: Is there a decent population of girls that want to be friends with you before getting involved or is that just B.S. Would it be worth going out once or twice maximum "as friends" and then make a judgement from there?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by static


I'm thinking of just saying "Let's go out as friends" but then make a move if the opportunity presents itself. What do you guys think about this?

Also I was wondering: Is there a decent population of girls that want to be friends with you before getting involved or is that just B.S. Would it be worth going out once or twice maximum "as friends" and then make a judgement from there?
I wouldnt suggest using that line, as it might indicate desperation, possibly AFCness.

Your BEST bet would be to start anew with someone you've just met and create initial attarction from there, kino c/f and the rest.
if they are attracted to you at first, they will go out when you ask them.

i think it's B.S., if that was true, they wouldnt LJBF guys.
 

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Hmmm, that's not a very good thing you are suggesting. You really need to just focus on finding someone that isn't seeing anyone else that you don't mind hanging out with.

What you are doing is promoting distance, which is a hugh no-no. Don't be afraid to get close.
 

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I have only been LJBF 'd once and it was by that girl I posted about when she said "I thought[i was giving you my number] in a friendship way" after I suggested hanging out.

http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=454915#post454915

All the other times, it's usually "I can't go out that day because I'm on call for work," Or some other B.S. sounding story. But a lot of them persist to say "for sure next week...call me up then...I'll be free"

I usually get trapped in this circle.
 

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I certainly don't think YOU should mention being friends, unless that is really what you want.

I think LJBF is 9 times out of 10 just a brush off. There MIGHT be some women who are a bit slow or shy who don't want to rush into things, but I don't think they would actually say LJBF unless they meant it.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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