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Me: "OK, Let's just go out a friends.", but then make a move?

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I told you guys already that I've called a bunch of girls but I haven't had any of them agree to hang out with me. They'll eventually tell me that they're seeing someone.

I'm thinking of just saying "Let's go out as friends" but then make a move if the opportunity presents itself. What do you guys think about this?

Also I was wondering: Is there a decent population of girls that want to be friends with you before getting involved or is that just B.S. Would it be worth going out once or twice maximum "as friends" and then make a judgement from there?
 

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Originally posted by static


I'm thinking of just saying "Let's go out as friends" but then make a move if the opportunity presents itself. What do you guys think about this?

Also I was wondering: Is there a decent population of girls that want to be friends with you before getting involved or is that just B.S. Would it be worth going out once or twice maximum "as friends" and then make a judgement from there?
I wouldnt suggest using that line, as it might indicate desperation, possibly AFCness.

Your BEST bet would be to start anew with someone you've just met and create initial attarction from there, kino c/f and the rest.
if they are attracted to you at first, they will go out when you ask them.

i think it's B.S., if that was true, they wouldnt LJBF guys.
 

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Hmmm, that's not a very good thing you are suggesting. You really need to just focus on finding someone that isn't seeing anyone else that you don't mind hanging out with.

What you are doing is promoting distance, which is a hugh no-no. Don't be afraid to get close.
 

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I have only been LJBF 'd once and it was by that girl I posted about when she said "I thought[i was giving you my number] in a friendship way" after I suggested hanging out.

http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=454915#post454915

All the other times, it's usually "I can't go out that day because I'm on call for work," Or some other B.S. sounding story. But a lot of them persist to say "for sure next week...call me up then...I'll be free"

I usually get trapped in this circle.
 

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I certainly don't think YOU should mention being friends, unless that is really what you want.

I think LJBF is 9 times out of 10 just a brush off. There MIGHT be some women who are a bit slow or shy who don't want to rush into things, but I don't think they would actually say LJBF unless they meant it.
 

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