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Since the 50s, the rich have gotten richer, and tbh those actual rich are probably still mostly white men not females, or minorities, so its just the same ppl on top, whether they r using minorities or females to get power is not the point. Ofcourse its capitalism if the rich have been getting richer and rest poorer, it can only be stopped with gov intervention. I mean how much money does gates, bezos, musk etc have? If things have gotten bad since the 50s you just have to ask is there more or less capitalism and the answer is have the rich got richer and is there greater inequality and the answer seems to be yes.

Whether a few minorities get better jobs or there are more black/trans leads in hollywood is not really important imo, It is just about the rich getting richer while the rest of us have more expensive housing, less pay, worse jobs etc
What about the NFL and NBA? All dominated by black men getting rich. But Let's not talk about that .
 

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Surely you jest.
That depends on whether you believe that the police actually enforce the law, or whether they project their own biases on their jobs that's contrary to their training because of culture within the police in order to maintain the status quo of white supremacy. There is a growing sentiment that a number within their ranks are secretly part of the kkk and have a job of framing black people with drug possession, disrespecting second amendment rights and killing black people on site for just legally owning a gun, and automatically side with the white people, refuse to listen to the other side if they are black and victims and end up slapping charges on the black victim even if the white person is attacking the black person on camera,e tc... When you have a climate like that within law enforcement then police are worst than useless and the money is better spent elsewhere. If they are not defunded, then jury awards against them will ensure they are legally defunded as they violate people's rights and they end up suing.

Right now, honestly, I don't have that much confidence in the police. In many cases I see, I can tell whether the race of the accused based on whether the police are charging them right away and have mutliple charges, or if they put some minor charge and say they are going to investigate and 90% of the time I'm spot on. What confidence can you have in public law enforcement if police are that biased. There is no true enforcement just an appeasing the collective white racist mindset that "something" is being done and they are doing their jobs to keep the criminals (aka black people) at bay and away from white spaces, so why bother having them if it's like that?
 

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If there was an international court of law and blacks as a collective sued for raparations and human rights abuse then it would be allot of money owed. But the US make sure no international court can prosecute them.
Just curious: Since you are a Canadian, living in Canada, do you feel victimized because of your race?
 

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Just curious: Since you are a Canadian, living in Canada, do you feel victimized because of your race?
No, I can't really say that since I have light-skin priviledge and don't think I look black enough or feel I have the type of black skin-tax that you hear about in the media. For example, the last time I was stopped by the police where I didn't like the vibe of the encounter was early 2011. They are blacks who complain about getting stopped 50 times in a month not once in a decade. I don't feel anything at the stores I frequent (if I do go in), and think people stare at my n95 mask since I'm the only person wearing any mask at all these days.

The type of employment choices I've made does not lend itself to racial issues, at least for now. So I would say it's unfair to say I'm victimized in Canada because of my race at this time and it doesn't do justice to others who have experienced that in a more profound way.

My black Canadian family has NO complaints about the police, and yeah, they too would probably think defunding the police is going too far. There are not that many police patrols on the road anyway to be honest and rarely to I see a police car behind my car, if ever.
 

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What about the NFL and NBA? All dominated by black men getting rich. But Let's not talk about that .
About that. It's argued that the owners are white and, especially football (NFL) is more like a plantation sport. If a player gets a concussion they generally just go on mental decline and it is a very dangerous sport. What risk are the white managers taking on the sport? Their heads aren't at risk of getting hit. Then there is the Colin Kaepernick thing. He expressed his views and virtually lost his job. You think if it was dominated by black men that would even be possible?

Colin Kaepernick (he has a Netflix docuseries on this as well) and Will Smith's Concussion movie (2015) have pretty much explained allot to me about that sport. Don't know much about the NBA as it has not been popularized in media (at least on the race angle) as much as the NFL has.
 

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Defund the police to pay for it.
and who is going to protect you when someone robs you at your home and kills your family members? (or whatever for that matter).
That is the most stupid thing I ever heard of. And that has gone so well in the retard states what actually done it, its genius:
Mass rioting and looting, murder and theft. Crime rates are going through the roof because there is no one to stop them. and for some reason, why is the large part of these people from the hood doing these crimes?
(This is backed by statistics/recorded data, just for the record).

Yep great idea!




Plus defunding the police or whatever government function can't pay for it. There is no money for it, only debt. Take a look at the debt clock again....


Socialism is not the answer. Capitalism is the answer.
Exactly, Capitalism us the very reason of our higher living standards, it promotes free will and the right to chose of building your own business or being a worker. It promotes and rewards those that dare to take risk and work hard, it promotes innovation and rewards those that do it for the chance of personal success.

With respect, I don't think you understand what capitalism is. Capitalism in the UK and US was at an all time high at the turn of the 20th century (i.e. over 100 years ago).
Exactly. We do not have Capitalism in the tree form anymore. Socialism and communisms has been mixed in and you can start (for US), with Franklin D. Roosevelt with his "New deal" in the 30'tes and the theft of US citizens gold which introduced the first parts socialism in the US.
Also for Capitalism to work you need free markets of capital and goods which we do not have anymore. We have a overregulated, government controlled markets instead.
 
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I don't think you understand what capitalism is. Capitalism in the UK and US was at an all time high at the turn of the 20th century (i.e. over 100 years ago). We are way past peak capitalism. What we have today is called "crony capitalism", which is actually a type of socialism. It's when the government and large corporations (i.e. Hollywood, the media, banks, etc.) work hand in hand to push social agendas and fvck people over.
We do not have Capitalism in the tree form anymore. Socialism and communisms has been mixed in and you can start (for US), with Franklin D. Roosevelt with his "New deal" in the 30'tes and the theft of US citizens gold which introduced the first parts socialism in the US.
Also for Capitalism to work you need free markets of capital and goods which we do not have anymore. We have a overregulated, government controlled markets instead.
The USA has too much 'crony capitalism' and government interference in the economic system. The USA needs less 'crony capitalism' and more laissez faire capitalism, which is actual capitalism.

@AureliusMaximus is from Denmark. The Scandinavian nations are all socialist, and they also need more capitalism.

Capitalism us the very reason of our higher living standards, it promotes free will and the right to chose of building your own business or being a worker. It promotes and rewards those that dare to take risk and work hard, it promotes innovation and rewards those that do it for the chance of personal success.
Yes!
 

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No lol. Capitalism is chaos.

Can you not see it? Ppl are incentivised to increase transactions, sell anything to anyone. There is no moral/technical/intellectual grounding whatsoever.

Capitalism will destroy your soul when you as a man go to work as a salesman and you accept that you must sell a product to someone whether they want it, need or it is good.

In Capitalism there is no moral grounding at all. You can make money selling crack and decimating communities and ppl will applaud for your hardwork and success, now you can drive aruond in a ferrari and get all the women too!

In Capitalism a man is a clown worse than when dealing with women. Women make men do stupid **** but Capitalism is worse. To make more money men are just doing pointless stuff like moving from job to job, whether one is more or less productuve doesnt even seem to affect outcomes but rather whether one moves job more or less often.

Capitalism is inherently inefficient because it is stupid and low-class.

In Captialism if someone got paid 300K to make a fool out of himself and sell his morals and beliefs ppl will say he is successful.

Capitalism will take your soul and leave you nothing.

Now Credit Suisse again is failing but Capitalism for thee but Socialism for me! The Gov will give them money cos big banks are not allowed to fail but you are allowed to fail. Capitalism is a lie, at the top it is all Socialism, if the bank fails the economy will get hurt. Big Banks and Big money can never lose, if they make profits the shareholders get rich, if they lose the gov will give them taxpayer money. It is all lie and a failure.

I worked at ABN Amro in IT. I was close to lots of traders and such I knew a lot about the markets. RBS came and bought ABN Amro, and soon RBS went bust. The Gov had to give them taxpayer money, Captialism for thee but Socialism for me! Then I moved to Credit Suisse and it too went downhill pretty quick around that time which was around 10years ago after the 2008 crisis. Now again it is doing badly. This **** is gonna repeat endlessly and you goota understand these bankers and traders are not adding value to the economy they are just extractiing money.

Most Banking/Trading jobs in the UK exist to give good easy high-paying jobs to elites from top private schools. The country is gonna fail really bad cos those ppl are making money but not doing anything useful. Ppl with intelligence and good education need to be doing useful work like infrastructure, roads, engineering etc not useless finance stuff that has no value. This is why Britain has a huge Banking sector but the country is doing really badly and now it is the global end of easy growth this country along with America are now gonna be in terminal decline cos they are just using the Banking/Finance sector to extract money from the ppl but not doing anything useful or productive like technology, manufacturing etc.
 

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@AureliusMaximus is from Denmark. The Scandinavian nations are all socialist, and they also need more capitalism.
Well they are capitalistic, but I agree they are strongly influnced by socialism too and I'm not a big fan of it.

I Believe in liberty, freedom of speech, free markets, low taxes for citizens, governments should be kept small and the individuals right to rule and live their own life as they fit, it you work hard you will receive and reap the benefits of your sweat and if you are lazy you will be punished for it which is fair = 100% capitalism.
 

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If socialism was such a great system, you would expect successful, hard-working people to be advocating for it. But that never happens. Instead, it's always losers and lazy bums who don't have two cents to their name who are preaching the virtues of socialism. Fvck that. Anyone who likes socialism can move to Cuba, Venezuela or North Korea (among others). And contrary to popular belief, Scandinavian countries are not socialist. Not even close.
I have have a Cuban coworker who says the same thing. He lived there under Castro and it was a total sh!t show. He suggests people who think socialism is such a great thing should move to Cuba and get a taste of their own delusion.
 

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No lol. Capitalism is chaos.

Can you not see it? Ppl are incentivised to increase transactions, sell anything to anyone. There is no moral/technical/intellectual grounding whatsoever.

Capitalism will destroy your soul when you as a man go to work as a salesman and you accept that you must sell a product to someone whether they want it, need or it is good.

In Capitalism there is no moral grounding at all. You can make money selling crack and decimating communities and ppl will applaud for your hardwork and success, now you can drive aruond in a ferrari and get all the women too!

In Capitalism a man is a clown worse than when dealing with women. Women make men do stupid **** but Capitalism is worse. To make more money men are just doing pointless stuff like moving from job to job, whether one is more or less productuve doesnt even seem to affect outcomes but rather whether one moves job more or less often.

Capitalism is inherently inefficient because it is stupid and low-class.

In Captialism if someone got paid 300K to make a fool out of himself and sell his morals and beliefs ppl will say he is successful.

Capitalism will take your soul and leave you nothing.

Now Credit Suisse again is failing but Capitalism for thee but Socialism for me! The Gov will give them money cos big banks are not allowed to fail but you are allowed to fail. Capitalism is a lie, at the top it is all Socialism, if the bank fails the economy will get hurt. Big Banks and Big money can never lose, if they make profits the shareholders get rich, if they lose the gov will give them taxpayer money. It is all lie and a failure.

I worked at ABN Amro in IT. I was close to lots of traders and such I knew a lot about the markets. RBS came and bought ABN Amro, and soon RBS went bust. The Gov had to give them taxpayer money, Captialism for thee but Socialism for me! Then I moved to Credit Suisse and it too went downhill pretty quick around that time which was around 10years ago after the 2008 crisis. Now again it is doing badly. This **** is gonna repeat endlessly and you goota understand these bankers and traders are not adding value to the economy they are just extractiing money.

Most Banking/Trading jobs in the UK exist to give good easy high-paying jobs to elites from top private schools. The country is gonna fail really bad cos those ppl are making money but not doing anything useful. Ppl with intelligence and good education need to be doing useful work like infrastructure, roads, engineering etc not useless finance stuff that has no value. This is why Britain has a huge Banking sector but the country is doing really badly and now it is the global end of easy growth this country along with America are now gonna be in terminal decline cos they are just using the Banking/Finance sector to extract money from the ppl but not doing anything useful or productive like technology, manufacturing etc.
Communism has never worked and never will and I got 1oo million dead souls and skulls to prove it:
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Communisms always turn into authoritarian states where no happiness or liberty exists; and you have the tyrannical leader class which are extremely wealthy and the rest of the people is living is misery and poverty. They always steal from everyone and when they run out of money they will do anything to force the citizens to pay for the party so they can continue living their comfortable lives.

Like Margaret Thatcher said very wisely:
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If you think and believe in that communism will work after failed EVERYTIME during a period of over 100 years then you are a fool.
There isn't one single case/country in the world where communism has not ended in tears and misery through out the recorded history of mankind.

Communism is simply just pure theft, authoritarian dictatorships, and state sanctioned slavery as the citizens is forced to work for free/nothing - which is also why the production/infrastructure fast tanks to nothing in the second a country turns to communism as no none wants to work for free and not benefit from it.
 
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Well they are capitalistic, but I agree they are strongly influnced by socialism too and I'm not a big fan of it.

I Believe in liberty, freedom of speech, free markets, low taxes for citizens, governments should be kept small and the individuals right to rule and live their own life as they fit, it you work hard you will receive and reap the benefits of your sweat and if you are lazy you will be punished for it which is fair = 100% capitalism.
The lazy become “victims” of their own doing. Look at all the people who didn’t want to work because the government was giving out free money during the pandemic. Then the working class get taxed to pay for them. My coworker used to get giddy over free Covid tests. They were not free, the government took 50% of our bonuses in taxes.
 

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The lazy become “victims” of their own doing. Look at all the people who didn’t want to work because the government was giving out free money during the pandemic. Then the working class get taxed to pay for them. My coworker used to get giddy over free Covid tests. They were not free, the government took 50% of our bonuses in taxes.
Well that's the irony of socialism and communism isn't it?
Everyone wants to be paid with free money, but no one wants to pay for it, nonetheless work for it, so where can you find this free money?
You have to steal it.
(Remember that government printing money is pure theft of money because = it creates inflation of the money supply).

This cannot even happen under a real 100% capitalistic system as money are "stable money" through the gold standard and thus cannot be inflated, ( you cannot print gold).

We had the 100% gold standard up to first world war one where US government gave over the control of the money supply by the creation of the Federal Reserve corporation which is fully controlled of private share owners, not the government.

There is nothing federal about the Fed. Anyway after 2914 they stated to dilute the gold standard and 1973 Nixon removed the rest of it and the modern currency markets and fiat money was created.

Federal Reserve Corporation is a private held limited company owned by the private banks/private investors, (No one knows who because it is kept secret), not the government by the way if you did not already know it. ;):up:
 
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and who is going to protect you when someone robs you at your home and kills your family members? (or whatever for that matter).
Jesus will, and He will prevent that from happening in the first place.

Just for the record, we do not have locks that work on our front door so that shows how much we care. It has not been working at all in the past 5 years and how many break-ins have happened? Zero. I can literally just kick my front door open. We don't even pray for protection because we just take it for granted about how safe this whole area is or that the set-up has so many signs of poverty with any valuables away from sight that people would just run from this place.

Even so, I'm not a big fan of calling the police in any trouble because I know the wrong cop can make the situation worst. There are videos when black businesses called the police and they end up with a broken jaw, or arrested because the racist cops can't take their word for it that a black man can own that business. The ignorance out there with some police is just appalling.


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That is the most stupid thing I ever heard of. And that has gone so well in the retard states what actually done it, its genius:
Mass rioting and looting, murder and theft. Crime rates are going through the roof because there is no one to stop them. and for some reason, why is the large part of these people from the hood doing these crimes?
(This is backed by statistics/recorded data, just for the record).
You like listening to Fox news don't you?

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Plus defunding the police or whatever government function can't pay for it. There is no money for it, only debt. Take a look at the debt clock again....
How do you figure that? Its money that would have been spent anyway it's just going elsewhere. Like the Ukraine.
 

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You like listening to Fox news don't you?
Don't have Fox news in Denmark so no.
The data is out there on the internet anyway so you can easily find it if you want.

It's just common sense that you are moron if you believe that removing the police force from the streets would make anything better.
That is just the definition of being a fool.
 

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Jesus will, and He will prevent that from happening in the first place.
Right, just like "your" African brothers/ancestors sold their own kind to the slave trade then? Did Jesus protect "you" when the African tribes hunted down, captured people from other African tribes and sold them to the slave trade for massive profits?

C'mon this is so stupid that one even have to comment on this. The only thing that will happen is pure anarchy if the police is removed and loads of misery will follow.
 
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