"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Master Don Juan
- Thread starter Odysseus
- Start date
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
GREAT WHITE SHARK
Master Don Juan
it should be the 500 mark.
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GREAT WHITE SHARK
Go hunting and kill a huge deer
Go fishing and fish an enormous pike
F.UCK F.UCK F.UCK hot blonds
buy an alligator skin mocassins
write a book that sells 10.000.000 copies
buy a X5 BMW
SHout GO TO HELL B.ITCH! for those who deserve it.
I'm surprised it hasn't been considered yet along with an upgrade of software. It really is a good idea.
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Make eye contact, smile, go for the kill...
CobraGT
Senior Don Juan
CobraGT
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
trickynick
Master Don Juan
In fact I would go so far as to suspect that some of the best DJ's here post rarely or not at all because their busy getting their freak on with hot chicks. Let's not forget why we are here, it's not a contest to see who can rack up the most posts.
[This message has been edited by trickynick (edited 01-22-2002).]
CobraGT
Senior Don Juan
CobraGT
TurboLover
Senior Don Juan
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-"The Supra Don Juan"-
"Be a real man. If it's broke, fix it. If it's fixed, break it."
trickynick
Master Don Juan
LMAO!!! That's pretty funny!
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You either own the game or it owns you!
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Ralfus
Master Don Juan
You think he is a "master"?
Ralfus
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I met this girl on Monday,
Took her for a drink on Tuesday,
We were making love by Wednesday,
And on Thursday & Friday & Saturday,
We chilled on Sunday.
Sociopath31
Master Don Juan
Don Phenom
Senior Don Juan
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Exactly!!!!
I think it is going to be rather unfair to change the limit on who can and can't become master now that we have a bunch of pseudo masters posting.
However if changing the limit involves demotion of masters that don't fit the criteria I am all for it. I know I will lose the stupid Master Don Juan title but who cares I would rather earn it over time than have it given to me without merit.
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"The Edge... There is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. The others --- the living --- are those who pushed their control as far as they felt they could handle it, and then pulled back, or slowed down, or did whatever they had to when it came time to choose between Now and Later." Hunter S. Thompson
extravaganza
Don Juan
Nobody is a master then and everybody is a 'don juan' that way nobody will whine about : lets put the limit higher!!!
And you wont have people posting stupid replies etc just to get their post count a.k.a. one post closer to master status up.
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Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others. - groucho marx
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Having just come to this board I initially assumed the title was earned some other way, and I was dismayed to find out that it is based entirely on quantity of comments posted. Back in ASF where I posted for several years, there were some useless flamers who posted ten times as much as anyone else and we were trying desperately to get rid of those people.
My point is that if the title IS going to be used then it *will* have some clout, at least initially, with every new arrival.
Then they will go through the same process of being disillusioned as I was when they discover how the title is earned.
So if the title is going to be used, it does make sense to find a more meaninful way of earning it.
Ideally it ought to reflect how good you are with women in real life, but that is simply impossible.
An outright vote as to who gets the title could work, but that sort of thing can derail the focus of the board, and is liable to encourage too much cliquishness and politicking.
The most workable barometer, IMO, would be to bestow the title on those who have posted a lot of GOOD posts. That could come, indirectly, from a sort of voting process by way of the number of posts that got bumbed into the archive.
I wouldn't mind it if there were technically an *easy* way for all the regulars (regulars only) to assign a usefulness grade or "number of stars" to each post, and then that post would end up with some average rating.
For one thing, I'd click on the five star posts first when reading through old posts. Also the number of four & five star posts could serve as the the basis for any special titles.
Ultimately this is mostly for the benefit of newbies, because the regulars are sure to find out for themselves whose advice they respect and whose they don't. However, if you set it up this way it would at least provide an extra incentive for people to post GOOD stuff--quality, not just quantity.
Whew...that turned into a long post!
DeepBlue
trickynick
Master Don Juan
Over 1500 posts at girlproblems.com! A master dork indeed. If it's the same guy I am thinking of, he has bragged about it here before too!Originally posted by Ralfus:
I've seen I dork at girlproblems.com with over 1500 posts!!!
You think he is a "master"?
Ralfus
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You either own the game or it owns you!
[This message has been edited by trickynick (edited 02-13-2002).]
PoachR75
Senior Don Juan
he he