Masculine Vs The Feminine

[soulforge]

I'm of the opinion, if a man lacks masculine qualities, show's a lack of leadership qualities, is unable to provide & protect his woman, then this man is a complete failure from the long term relationship perspective.

The key ingredient Masculinity which is what most females require is missing in the relationship dynamic.

Would it also not be fair to state, the females who lack feminine traits, who do not have that sweet feminine touch, do not have those nurturing & forgiving qualities, are also a complete failure.

Shouldn't a masculine woman by default get nexted, simply because she does not have those basic feminine qualities that most men require.

Let's face it, most woman would ruthlessly & mercilessly dispose of a man who showed any sign of weakness, thefore why should we give these masculine chicks a free pass when they don't meet our basic requirements.

 

[soulforge]

Is this like a motivational speech for yourself?

No it's just a post, that was a very quick response. Don't you have cats to feed.

 

[soulforge]

I fed my cat in the morning and evening. And my kitten is smoking a joint outside while I'm vaping cannabis and checking out the forum. Don't think I'm just waiting to pounce on you, you're not important.

Bro why are you trying to hijack this post into something personal. You seem butt hurt about something from the past.

Let go of the butt hurt.. Stop trying to hijack my thread by turning it into something personal.

Go back to you pigeons & cats.

 

[Michael Chief]

Complete failure? Not necessarily.

Theoretically, a man who is naturally more feminine and a woman who is naturally more masculine could end up in a very successful long term relationship together. Same goes for any combination of genders where one person is more masculine and the other is more feminine. Opposites attract.

A masculine man and a feminine woman just happen to be the statistical majority. Successfully adhering to the majority is great if that's your natural inclination, but let's not generalize to that extreme lest we further marginalize groups that have already been marginalized enough.

I would agree with you if you said that a naturally masculine man who suppresses his innate masculinity, or fails to develop masculine expressions, and prioritizes attracting feminine women*, is a complete failure in terms of intersexual relationships.

*I have met tons of dudes who aren't like me at all, and don't really care about being more attractive to women, or dating a lot of women, or even dating whatsoever. They don't get a lot of action, but they don't care. I don't understand them, but I'm not going to judge them for not getting what they weren't going for in the first place.

 

[soulforge]

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Bro grow up, your like a grudge holding child, in an old man's body.

 

[soulforge]

Complete failure? Not necessarily.

Theoretically, a man who is naturally more feminine and a woman who is naturally more masculine could end up in a very successful long term relationship together. Same goes for any combination of genders where one person is more masculine and the other is more feminine. Opposites attract.

A masculine man and a feminine woman just happen to be the statistical majority. Successfully adhering to the majority is great if that's your natural inclination, but let's not generalize to that extreme lest we further marginalize groups that have already been marginalized enough.

I would agree with you if you said that a naturally masculine man who suppresses his innate masculinity, or fails to develop masculine expressions, and prioritizes attracting feminine women*, is a complete failure in terms of intersexual relationships.

*I have met tons of dudes who aren't like me at all, and don't really care about being more attractive to women, or dating a lot of women, or even dating whatsoever. They don't get a lot of action, but they don't care. I don't understand them, but I'm not going to judge them for not getting what they weren't going for in the first place.

This is all good & I appreciate your thoughts on this matter.

However if you spend any amount of time in the No Contact thread or speak to men who got dumped by the love of his life..

You will more likely get the same reason for why he got dumped.. He showed weakness!

He stopped being the leader, stopped accerrtin dominance, stopped doing masculine activities such as fitness & self improvement.

Basically he tuned out the masculinity..

This turns out to be the deal-breaker for the girl & she dumps him.

I'm simply saying us men should be equally as ruthless, when it comes to our basic needs.. Wanting a feminine woman, which most men do prefer.

 

[whitething]

Some women in Liberal areas are indoctrinated to like sissymary's, masculinity is a turn off. Those women are generally into one or more of the alphabets. You must be a man IMO to hook up/find a good women. A masculine woman is all an act and an extreme red flag. Sexy is a woman that can change her oil or slip out of Motocross gear and be feminine.

 

[Michael Chief]

I think video game addiction is causing a lot of boys and men to become less masculine, and makes them want to put less and less effort into dating, even if they were naturally more inclined to be masculine originally.

Video game addiction has become a lot more prevalent with improvements in technology, and the amount of people hooking up has plummeted in recent surveys. Does it make boys and men less masculine? In one way, it leads to less exercise and less gainz. They generally get fatter. Happened to me before when I used to be kind of addicted to a game. This will affect testosterone, and ultimately behavior.

Just a theory.

 

[Michael Chief]

I recall I read a study about how the toxic part is in eroding masculinity but increasing frustration/aggression at the same time.

Sounds like a study I'd be interested in reading. Let me know if you ever find it again.

 

[Doctor Europeo]

I think video game addiction

No joke, I thought your username was "Master Chief"

 

[Tilex]

Women that are political or heavily involved in politics tend to lean more on the masculine side.
Stay away from female Judges, Prosecutors, Police Officers, and most Government workers.
These type of masculine women are extremely bossy and have the ability to challenge your manhood at any given moment.

 

[Plinco]

I'm of the opinion, if a man lacks masculine qualities, show's a lack of leadership qualities, is unable to provide & protect his woman, then this man is a complete failure from the long term relationship perspective.

The key ingredient Masculinity which is what most females require is missing in the relationship dynamic.

Would it also not be fair to state, the females who lack feminine traits, who do not have that sweet feminine touch, do not have those nurturing & forgiving qualities, are also a complete failure.

Shouldn't a masculine woman by default get nexted, simply because she does not have those basic feminine qualities that most men require.

Let's face it, most woman would ruthlessly & mercilessly dispose of a man who showed any sign of weakness, thefore why should we give these masculine chicks a free pass when they don't meet our basic requirements.

And let's define exactly what masculinity and femininity is:

masculinity: effectiveness in controlling the environment

femininity: admiration of what controls the environment

 

[ThisIsSparta]

And? What good is your manhood if it cannot stand up to the challenge of a 'bossy woman'.

Bossy women are not challenging, they are annoying.

The older i get the shorter my tolerance for BS gets and this includes women that think they need to challenge me.

I have so much things going in in my life that are more important and more rewarding then spending my time on teaching bratty women about the error of their ways.

I'm of the opinion, if a man lacks masculine qualities, show's a lack of leadership qualities, is unable to provide & protect his woman, then this man is a complete failure from the long term relationship perspective.

The key ingredient Masculinity which is what most females require is missing in the relationship dynamic.

Would it also not be fair to state, the females who lack feminine traits, who do not have that sweet feminine touch, do not have those nurturing & forgiving qualities, are also a complete failure.

Shouldn't a masculine woman by default get nexted, simply because she does not have those basic feminine qualities that most men require.

Let's face it, most woman would ruthlessly & mercilessly dispose of a man who showed any sign of weakness, thefore why should we give these masculine chicks a free pass when they don't meet our basic requirements.

She had ONE FVCKING JOB, be a proper woman, be feminin.

Masculine women are just a pain in the ass and will allways try to show her balls are bigger then yours in one way or the other.

Certain mentioned proffessions are red flags and same goes for sports.
Women playing soccer, doing martial arts, airsoft, climbing, competitive shooting...... most of them are at least boyish and disqualify themselves from being taken as serious LTR material.

That said, i DO believe that women become iritated or even try to compensate an eventual lack of masculinity in their man.

 

[soulforge]

I think video game addiction is causing a lot of boys and men to become less masculine, and makes them want to put less and less effort into dating, even if they were naturally more inclined to be masculine originally.

Video game addiction has become a lot more prevalent with improvements in technology, and the amount of people hooking up has plummeted in recent surveys. Does it make boys and men less masculine? In one way, it leads to less exercise and less gainz. They generally get fatter. Happened to me before when I used to be kind of addicted to a game. This will affect testosterone, and ultimately behavior.

Just a theory.

Bossy women are not challenging, they are annoying.

The older i get the shorter my tolerance for BS gets and this includes women that think they need to challenge me.

I have so much things going in in my life that are more important and more rewarding then spending my time on teaching bratty women about the error of their ways.





She had ONE FVCKING JOB, be a proper woman, be feminin.

Masculine women are just a pain in the ass and will allways try to show her balls are bigger then yours in one way or the other.

Certain mentioned proffessions are red flags and same goes for sports.
Women playing soccer, doing martial arts, airsoft, climbing, competitive shooting...... most of them are at least boyish and disqualify themselves from being taken as serious LTR material.

That said, i DO believe that women become iritated or even try to compensate an eventual lack of masculinity in their man.

I agree with you.

Why the hell spend all that time, energy, effort into trying to change a bossy masculine, annoying woman into a nicer person to deal with.

We have other things to do, such as create a fantastic life for ourselves.

The constant clashes & battles with her, trying to get her to change is pointless.

How many females intentionally choose a weak beta loser of a man & then try to change him into an Alpha Chad? That's right it doesn't happen. They want a masculine man right from the offset.

Only men who have nothing better to do, with there lives, would invest years into a relationship hoping they can change her.. Eventually the relationship fails & he loses years that he will never get back.

 

[Westminster]

Women that are political or heavily involved in politics tend to lean more on the masculine side.
Stay away from female Judges, Prosecutors, Police Officers, and most Government workers.
These type of masculine women are extremely bossy and have the ability to challenge your manhood at any given moment.

Yep. Often the case. Stay away from them - wise words.

 

[Westminster]

And? What good is your manhood if it cannot stand up to the challenge of a 'bossy woman'.

You don't want to have to rise to the challenge. Better just find a more agreeable in the first place.

 

[soulforge]

You don't want to have to rise to the challenge. Better just find a more agreeable in the first place.

You are right.

That comment was as retarded as, expecting a female to rise up to the challenge of taking on a weak beta male.

Why should either parties bother, when there are more suitable options outhere.

 

[Plinco]

You are right.

That comment was as retarded as, expecting a female to rise up to the challenge of taking on a weak beta male.

Why should either parties bother, when there are more suitable options outhere.

I want to raise a similar point here. I've had various degrees of success at changing women's political opinions and outlooks from a feminist/marxist into more rational viewpoints. You can train a woman to be less of a feminist if she spends enough time with you.

 

[soulforge]

I want to raise a similar point here. I've had various degrees of success at changing women's political opinions and outlooks from a feminist/marxist into more rational viewpoints. You can train a woman to be less of a feminist if she spends enough time with you.

Yes I agree. I have done this before, simply by letting her listen to my logical arguments, she eventually was swayed to my line of thinking.

It didn't take much for me to convince her that Donad Trump is an absolute blubbering tool. Politics are off-limits at SoSuave

However we are referring more about a masculine woman's personality.

They tend to be argumentive, agressive, non diplomatic when it comes to disagreements.

Trying to deal with masculine girls is a ****in headache. It's never worth it.

It's like a woman having to train the Beta out of a dude, when she can easily just go find a chad.

 

[Plinco]

However we are referring more about a masculine woman's personality.

I found that much of these traits arise from insecurities.