"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Manipulation and Persuasion

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Im looking for books/e-books on manipulation and persuasion. Any you guys suggest?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Sorry but this book is not that good. Half the stuff is common sense, the other half is garbage.

I suggest a book by Kevin Hogan. the book is the psychology of persuasion. Works wonders.
 
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Desert, maybe for you.

If you are already amoral ok, but for those naive people it´s a huge wake up call. I´ve become way more cunning after this book, I have to becareful not to take it too far because IT IS dangerous. Now I laugh when I see a "shark" trying to fool me as I know his tatics.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Influence by Cialdini. It's not too long or hard to understand, but at the same time based on tested and proven techniques.

Good regardless of whether you're trying to manipulate, or just want to learn the tricks sales people and others are using on you, so that you can resist them better.
 
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Manipulation is a tool for the weak. The 10,000 threads on this site bemoaning manipulative women would testify.

I am an award-winning insurance agent, and I have never manipulated anybody to get a sale.

"Why should I take the hard road when I can just get another bag of tricks?"

And if you truly feel the world is out to pull the wool over your eyes and rip you off, that is just a reflection of your own inadequacies.
 
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Go to a book store and find any how to book concerning sales. Sales is the art of persuasion to a key.
 
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Julius_Seizeher said:
Manipulation is a tool for the weak. The 10,000 threads on this site bemoaning manipulative women would testify.

I am an award-winning insurance agent, and I have never manipulated anybody to get a sale.

"Why should I take the hard road when I can just get another bag of tricks?"

And if you truly feel the world is out to pull the wool over your eyes and rip you off, that is just a reflection of your own inadequacies.
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Thank You. Im not talking about manipulating women, I already know how to seduce them. Most people don't want you to succeed and most will bring you down or give you the wrong advice on purpose. Ive witnessed it and have given the wrong advice. Ive also notice alot of people try to manipulate me, and I can see right through it. When your talking about another bag of tricks what exactly are you talking about?
 
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maybe these manipulation sites work as good as about PUA's sites.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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