"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Manipulation and Persuasion

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Im looking for books/e-books on manipulation and persuasion. Any you guys suggest?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Sorry but this book is not that good. Half the stuff is common sense, the other half is garbage.

I suggest a book by Kevin Hogan. the book is the psychology of persuasion. Works wonders.
 
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Desert, maybe for you.

If you are already amoral ok, but for those naive people it´s a huge wake up call. I´ve become way more cunning after this book, I have to becareful not to take it too far because IT IS dangerous. Now I laugh when I see a "shark" trying to fool me as I know his tatics.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Influence by Cialdini. It's not too long or hard to understand, but at the same time based on tested and proven techniques.

Good regardless of whether you're trying to manipulate, or just want to learn the tricks sales people and others are using on you, so that you can resist them better.
 
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Manipulation is a tool for the weak. The 10,000 threads on this site bemoaning manipulative women would testify.

I am an award-winning insurance agent, and I have never manipulated anybody to get a sale.

"Why should I take the hard road when I can just get another bag of tricks?"

And if you truly feel the world is out to pull the wool over your eyes and rip you off, that is just a reflection of your own inadequacies.
 
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Go to a book store and find any how to book concerning sales. Sales is the art of persuasion to a key.
 
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Julius_Seizeher said:
Manipulation is a tool for the weak. The 10,000 threads on this site bemoaning manipulative women would testify.

I am an award-winning insurance agent, and I have never manipulated anybody to get a sale.

"Why should I take the hard road when I can just get another bag of tricks?"

And if you truly feel the world is out to pull the wool over your eyes and rip you off, that is just a reflection of your own inadequacies.
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Thank You. Im not talking about manipulating women, I already know how to seduce them. Most people don't want you to succeed and most will bring you down or give you the wrong advice on purpose. Ive witnessed it and have given the wrong advice. Ive also notice alot of people try to manipulate me, and I can see right through it. When your talking about another bag of tricks what exactly are you talking about?
 
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maybe these manipulation sites work as good as about PUA's sites.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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