"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Juanto

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If your GF has some close MALE friends, as a man how do you react to that? Do you ask her to cut out the contact, do you do nothing about it and just observe carefully, do you try to find out if they also have GF´s of their own? Whats your take on this?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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ALL attractive women have orbiters. They benefit from these tool boxes because they often get free sh!t, help moving, connections, etc. out of them.

If a woman has CLOSE male friends.. that's another issue. I would then ask her if she is fully aware that her male friend(s) want to pound her. If she is dumb enough to not believe it.. I would then tell her to inform her "friend" he has no chance in hell of EVER sleeping with her in this life or the next. Most women will say something along the lines of: "He already knows". I would then tell her: "GOOD.. so it should be easy to tell him then".

This is not about being insecure about her male friends. Its about testing her level of submission to you. Notice I am not telling her to end the friendship. I am only telling her to be 100% honest with her male "friend". Something a "true friend" should have no problems doing right? RIGHT.

If she does not submit to my request.. she will be demoted to sex toy until she does.
 

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ALL attractive women have orbiters. They benefit from these tool boxes because they often get free sh!t, help moving, connections, etc. out of them.

If a woman has CLOSE male friends.. that's another issue. I would then ask her if she is fully aware that her male friend(s) want to pound her. If she is dumb enough to not believe it.. I would then tell her to inform her "friend" he has no chance in hell of EVER sleeping with her in this life or the next. Most women will say something along the lines of: "He already knows". I would then tell her: "GOOD.. so it should be easy to tell him then".

This is not about being insecure about her male friends. Its about testing her level of submission to you. Notice I am not telling her to end the friendship. I am only telling her to be 100% honest with her male "friend". Something a "true friend" should have no problems doing right? RIGHT.

If she does not submit to my request.. she will be demoted to sex toy until she does.
Cutting out the orbiters is a must for any man (although its always so difficult to do so) but with close friends I always struggled a bit because I could never be sure in some cases why a guy and a girl are friends for years without anything sexual happening between the 2 (if none of them is absurdly unnatractive).
 

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Girls with close male friends = 100% no bueno, unless they are gay. It's a backburner situation most of the time and that is the guy she will straight bang the instant she gets pissed at you for even the tiniest thing. Women who have close male friends generally don't get along with other women and if they don't, it's likely that it's because other women find them shady
 

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I guess then that when the best friend of your GF is a guy, thats not good news... Had a case like that before.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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My ex is "FB Official" with one of her orbiters about two months post breakup. Musical theatre people, so lots of gay guy friends and only a few straight (-Beta) ones. Just gonna' do my thing and let come what may.
 

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Cutting out the orbiters is a must for any man (although its always so difficult to do so) but with close friends I always struggled a bit because I could never be sure in some cases why a guy and a girl are friends for years without anything sexual happening between the 2 (if none of them is absurdly unnatractive).
Here is the thing: If a woman finds it more important to keep around her male friend(s) and orbiters over you.. then you cannot take that woman seriously.

This is why I often say you learn the most about women when you force them to make a decision. You find out your level of value in her eyes. You can then use that information to decide how best to spend your emotional energy. Never waste emotional energy on wh0res and women who want to "keep their options open" (keeping orbiters and male friends are examples of this). Keep such women as plates. Don't commit emotionally.
 

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Here is the thing: If a woman finds it more important to keep around her male friend(s) and orbiters over you.. then you cannot take that woman seriously.

This is why I often say you learn the most about women when you force them to make a decision. You find out your level of value in her eyes. You can then use that information to decide how best to spend your emotional energy. Never waste emotional energy on wh0res and women who want to "keep their options open" (keeping orbiters and male friends are examples of this). Keep such women as plates. Don't commit emotionally.
Thanks Poon King. I made the mistake in my last relationship of not cutting out right at the beginning any orbiters around, and that came back to bite me in the a§§ later on, which contributed in a big way for me to terminate the relationship. Lesson that I learned: establish very clearly your boundaries right from day 1.
 

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No one was more pro-boundaries(no guy friends basically, although never that severe) than I was back in the day, but I have to say in practice I'm not so sure anymore. Even if they agree to cut off their male friends, its only because those guys were NOT an issue. New guys will still be, and they will be carefully hidden because she knows better(unless she wants to be "caught"). I will say though that the quality of the relationship when "no guy friends" is in place is exponentially higher.
Agreed with the last statement.
 

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Agreed with the last statement.
Double agreed. Not only have you got to fend off the current orbiters, new ones will be cropping up all the time. The ones who pose the most threat will be the hardest to uncover.

Either she's trustworthy, or she's not.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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This thread reminds me of a Will Rogers quote - "Good judgment comes from experience and a lot of that comes from bad judgment."

It's become cliche at this point, but if only I knew this sh!t earlier!!!!!
 
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