"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Making the approach

DJBen

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Right, I've got the mindset I need sorted, but theres just something I need a hand with, guys:

At college theres a girl I keep making eye contact with... she looks right back at me and smiles slightly and looks slightly shy - this has been going on for quite some time. Thats all cool, but heres the problem.

she's never by herself.... ever :| otherwise I'd have easily made a move by now. I was wondering if any of you guys [especially brittish, you know what those brits are like for cold approaches :p] knew any way that I could walk over and pick up on something without sounding like a complete AFC or loser. I've been thinking of a way to sort of grab her attention to a vending machine or something, and try and make her come over - but that'll only work if A)she's really confident and B) the IL is pretty damn high

answers on a postcard ;)

EDIT: reading back through it, it sounds like oneitis... it isnt that bad. . . yet :p
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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a) clubs and pubs, they have to go to the toilet sometimes (and surprisingly when out they tend not to go there in pairs).

b) Get a wing to distract her friends, just ask a mate to pull off one of her friends.

c)talk to the whole group and then ask to pull her aside (this is the easiest and probably most successful)

d) go up and ask to borrow her (good if she actually knows you).

e) dont stalk her, but watch where her friends leave her and then make a move.
 

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B) and C) seem best, I've been casually looking for E but it never comes.

I doubt any of my mates would distract the other two, they have serious complexes as far as women are concerned.

I've made quite a few approaches on someone by themself, but not in a group... I guess I'm just gonna have to look for something to point out and try to get it rolling from there. I've never thought about A) before though, no idea why, I'll try that next weekend

thanks
 

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I'd say use a wingman. They are effective, or atleast in my experiences.
 
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