"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Making moves with a movie star

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yo everybody,

I would greatly appreciate some of your wisdom as I am a bit stuck.

I went to see a play that a good friend of mine was in on Saturday night and went for a night out with the cast afterwards. There was a girl there, an actress in the play, whom I could feel there was a vibe going. We went dancing and I moved in, however she was seemed shy and very concerned about other people seeing her romancing. During the night people came up to her I assumed because they had seen her in the play. The night went on and we were holding hands and having a real nice connection however there were too many of her cast mates around for me to be able to isolate her and get anywhere further. I left with her number and we agreed to meet back in the city in a few weeks when she's back.

I found out when I left from my friend who is in the play that she is actually a really famous actress and the people coming up to her were engaging with her because of the films she's been in not the play.

So now I have this super high status girl that I want to engage with but am not really sure how. I'm a rockstar myself and am incredibly talented but don't have anywhere near as much money/social status as her (yet!)

I text her the day after saying that it was a real delight dancing and chatting with her and that it felt quite cosmic - she hasn't replied. I recognise now this may have been a bit beta but its what I felt to do.

What should I do next? how should I approach this now? - she seemed really into me on the night but also seemed somewhat reluctant to engage, I think due to her fame.

Peace people
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Act like it's no big thing, but do praise her for being successful as you would for anyone that is successful.

EDIT: If you're a rockstar [sic], what difference would it make?
 

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Yeah to me it's not really a big thing that she's mega successful, it just seems that I am now the one chasing as she hasn't replied to my message.

How to do I reframe it so it's not me chasing her?
 

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Yeah to me it's not really a big thing that she's mega successful, it just seems that I am now the one chasing as she hasn't replied to my message.

How to do I reframe it so it's not me chasing her?
By ignoring her and doing something else. Another woman.
 

voavoavoa

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By ignoring her and doing something else. Another woman.
But I wanna be with this woman and due to her circumstances if I don't chase she just may never contact me - which although I appreciate the logic that there are so many women in the world, this one is particularly interesting to me.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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But I wanna be with this woman and due to her circumstances if I don't chase she just may never contact me - which although I appreciate the logic that there are so many women in the world, this one is particularly interesting to me.
Dont be stupid.
 

voavoavoa

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Fvck her. If she not worried about you why do you care?
coz she's a real groovy babe and is perhaps guarded due to her fame. I'm gonna call her and tell her whats up. Chase her with relentless vigour and of course an air of joyful nonchalance.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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voavoavoa

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Purpose. Deal with women who choose you. 3 date rule. You should be fvcking.
I have my purpose and am moving swiftly towards it without any compromise and I am spinning plates, so sex isn't an issue. She was totally into me that night but I couldn't get rid of her friends so we could be alone. She's a real babe that's why I want to spend some time with her - I just need some advice on how to achieve that without it being me obviously chasing her.
 

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I have my purpose and am moving swiftly towards it without any compromise and I am spinning plates, so sex isn't an issue. She was totally into me that night but I couldn't get rid of her friends so we could be alone. She's a real babe that's why I want to spend some time with her - I just need some advice on how to achieve that without it being me obviously chasing her.
You cant chase them. Ask Howie. If she was interested shed be contacting you. Focus on other girls.
 

voavoavoa

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You cant chase them. Ask Howie. If she was interested shed be contacting you. Focus on other girls.
Perhaps you're right - I will certainly focus on other girls however if she doesn't contact me I will call her ask her out, got nothing to lose.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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