"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Making her kiss you first

Prodoge

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Hey guys,

the other day, Hitch was on TV and it came to the first kiss part. Smith states that for the first kiss, you should go 90% of the way and let her go the last 10%. BS or legit ?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Better to look at it as giving her the opportunity to go that last 10%.

The whole stopping thing gets around in the dating advice world. It's supposed to maybe generate excitement and maybe anticipation.

And like most things, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
 

marmel75

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It's irrelevant. You worry about way too many things that aren't important to any of this.
 

Alvafe

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It's irrelevant. You worry about way too many things that aren't important to any of this.
true, but remember why guys look for things like that, it show then a step by step thing to do, and in doing so make then feel confident.

is all about the mind thinking he knows what he should do and if he follow the steps he won't screw up.
 

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I state that it's not that damn important. I state that you should always expect loss and always appreciate the wins. I state that independent men don't need other men to tell them what to do. I state that you should listen to yourself instead of everyone else. Even though it would be ironic if you listened to me about that.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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grayclif

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Just kiss her already. Best to do it after you have initiated lots of kino and at around the half way point of the date. If she resists then you know to direct your interests elsewhere.
 

marmel75

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true, but remember why guys look for things like that, it show then a step by step thing to do, and in doing so make then feel confident.

is all about the mind thinking he knows what he should do and if he follow the steps he won't screw up.
If you need that to feel confident you've got a whole lot more pressing issues than having her kiss you first.
 
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