"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

making a move

steve_erkle

Don Juan
Joined
Aug 9, 2008
Messages
109
Reaction score
1
when escalating, sometimes when i get nervous when i have to make a move. don't know why. advice other than, just do it?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

Read more...

DarkShade

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 8, 2008
Messages
252
Reaction score
12
Location
Atlanta
Do only what you are comfortable with. You can't go from driving a Civic to a Formula car in a single setting. You aren't less of a man because you want to move slower or are uncomfortable in a setting, go at it in YOUR pace.

Besides, if she really likes you, it heightens the anticipation for next time.
 

Furyguy

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 14, 2008
Messages
467
Reaction score
19
Location
A better place, a better time.
I was once petrified of making a move on this girl I really, really cared about.

I did. It was one of the best decisions of my life. Grow some balls and get it done, or don't and regret it the rest of your life. Your choice. If you can't do this for yourself, what the **** are you ever going to succeed at in life?
 

Ixnys

Don Juan
Joined
Feb 12, 2002
Messages
91
Reaction score
0
Location
L.A., California
Some advice...

Was going out with a girl. I was hesitant about making a move (kiss). I kept on waiting for an opportunity. A time when she would just stop moving and it would feel right. Didn't happen. I beat myself up when I came home.

Started dating this other chick a week or two later. She was a little more aggressive. I knew she was into me. I knew she wanted me to kiss her and I definitely was going to. I was waiting for when she was going to just stay still and look into my eyes and I would go in. When the time came and I was sitting with her on the couch I started to make my move but I think she could sense that I was waiting for the opportunity. She straight out almost mocked me and said, "Oh so you're gonna kiss me now? That's not the way you do it"

Anyways moments later I just ****ing went in and she was damn receptive.

Lesson learned was to not wait for a perfect moment. Get some isolation and then just go for it confidently. She'll be receptive. She wants you to make **** happen. Don't wait for her. If I was dating the other chick again I would have just gone for it and if I date anyone else I'll be confident knowing to just go for it. Once you do it once you'll have confidence and it won't be an issue in the future.

Just do it. You're nervous because you haven't done it before. Once you do it you'll realize that there was nothing to be afraid of. Funny huh? That's why confidence = experience
 

steve_erkle

Don Juan
Joined
Aug 9, 2008
Messages
109
Reaction score
1
Ixnys said:
Some advice...

Was going out with a girl. I was hesitant about making a move (kiss). I kept on waiting for an opportunity. A time when she would just stop moving and it would feel right. Didn't happen. I beat myself up when I came home.

Started dating this other chick a week or two later. She was a little more aggressive. I knew she was into me. I knew she wanted me to kiss her and I definitely was going to. I was waiting for when she was going to just stay still and look into my eyes and I would go in. When the time came and I was sitting with her on the couch I started to make my move but I think she could sense that I was waiting for the opportunity. She straight out almost mocked me and said, "Oh so you're gonna kiss me now? That's not the way you do it"

Anyways moments later I just ****ing went in and she was damn receptive.

Lesson learned was to not wait for a perfect moment. Get some isolation and then just go for it confidently. She'll be receptive. She wants you to make **** happen. Don't wait for her. If I was dating the other chick again I would have just gone for it and if I date anyone else I'll be confident knowing to just go for it. Once you do it once you'll have confidence and it won't be an issue in the future.

Just do it. You're nervous because you haven't done it before. Once you do it you'll realize that there was nothing to be afraid of. Funny huh? That's why confidence = experience
thanks a lot man
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

Read more...

Top