steve_erkle
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when escalating, sometimes when i get nervous when i have to make a move. don't know why. advice other than, just do it?
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Do only what you are comfortable with. You can't go from driving a Civic to a Formula car in a single setting. You aren't less of a man because you want to move slower or are uncomfortable in a setting, go at it in YOUR pace.
Besides, if she really likes you, it heightens the anticipation for next time.
Besides, if she really likes you, it heightens the anticipation for next time.
Furyguy
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I was once petrified of making a move on this girl I really, really cared about.
I did. It was one of the best decisions of my life. Grow some balls and get it done, or don't and regret it the rest of your life. Your choice. If you can't do this for yourself, what the **** are you ever going to succeed at in life?
I did. It was one of the best decisions of my life. Grow some balls and get it done, or don't and regret it the rest of your life. Your choice. If you can't do this for yourself, what the **** are you ever going to succeed at in life?
Ixnys
Don Juan
Some advice...
Was going out with a girl. I was hesitant about making a move (kiss). I kept on waiting for an opportunity. A time when she would just stop moving and it would feel right. Didn't happen. I beat myself up when I came home.
Started dating this other chick a week or two later. She was a little more aggressive. I knew she was into me. I knew she wanted me to kiss her and I definitely was going to. I was waiting for when she was going to just stay still and look into my eyes and I would go in. When the time came and I was sitting with her on the couch I started to make my move but I think she could sense that I was waiting for the opportunity. She straight out almost mocked me and said, "Oh so you're gonna kiss me now? That's not the way you do it"
Anyways moments later I just ****ing went in and she was damn receptive.
Lesson learned was to not wait for a perfect moment. Get some isolation and then just go for it confidently. She'll be receptive. She wants you to make **** happen. Don't wait for her. If I was dating the other chick again I would have just gone for it and if I date anyone else I'll be confident knowing to just go for it. Once you do it once you'll have confidence and it won't be an issue in the future.
Just do it. You're nervous because you haven't done it before. Once you do it you'll realize that there was nothing to be afraid of. Funny huh? That's why confidence = experience
Was going out with a girl. I was hesitant about making a move (kiss). I kept on waiting for an opportunity. A time when she would just stop moving and it would feel right. Didn't happen. I beat myself up when I came home.
Started dating this other chick a week or two later. She was a little more aggressive. I knew she was into me. I knew she wanted me to kiss her and I definitely was going to. I was waiting for when she was going to just stay still and look into my eyes and I would go in. When the time came and I was sitting with her on the couch I started to make my move but I think she could sense that I was waiting for the opportunity. She straight out almost mocked me and said, "Oh so you're gonna kiss me now? That's not the way you do it"
Anyways moments later I just ****ing went in and she was damn receptive.
Lesson learned was to not wait for a perfect moment. Get some isolation and then just go for it confidently. She'll be receptive. She wants you to make **** happen. Don't wait for her. If I was dating the other chick again I would have just gone for it and if I date anyone else I'll be confident knowing to just go for it. Once you do it once you'll have confidence and it won't be an issue in the future.
Just do it. You're nervous because you haven't done it before. Once you do it you'll realize that there was nothing to be afraid of. Funny huh? That's why confidence = experience
steve_erkle
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thanks a lot manIxnys said:Some advice...
Was going out with a girl. I was hesitant about making a move (kiss). I kept on waiting for an opportunity. A time when she would just stop moving and it would feel right. Didn't happen. I beat myself up when I came home.
Started dating this other chick a week or two later. She was a little more aggressive. I knew she was into me. I knew she wanted me to kiss her and I definitely was going to. I was waiting for when she was going to just stay still and look into my eyes and I would go in. When the time came and I was sitting with her on the couch I started to make my move but I think she could sense that I was waiting for the opportunity. She straight out almost mocked me and said, "Oh so you're gonna kiss me now? That's not the way you do it"
Anyways moments later I just ****ing went in and she was damn receptive.
Lesson learned was to not wait for a perfect moment. Get some isolation and then just go for it confidently. She'll be receptive. She wants you to make **** happen. Don't wait for her. If I was dating the other chick again I would have just gone for it and if I date anyone else I'll be confident knowing to just go for it. Once you do it once you'll have confidence and it won't be an issue in the future.
Just do it. You're nervous because you haven't done it before. Once you do it you'll realize that there was nothing to be afraid of. Funny huh? That's why confidence = experience
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