glass half full
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I have seen and heard this so many times from women, what the hell do they mean when they say they want a man to "make her surrender?"
Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
"make me surrender"
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
She wants you to play the game and pursue her in a dominant way. If you show dominance she will allow you to "catch" her.
You need to flip the script and with your dominance cause her to pursue you.
A girl like this is usually very submissive in nature.
You need to flip the script and with your dominance cause her to pursue you.
A girl like this is usually very submissive in nature.
Colossus
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I think it's SO hot when a girl talks like that.
It's easy to do, too. Just be persistent, aggressive, and don't take no for an answer!! Light resistance = ok, heavy resistance = not ok. But if she is asking you to TAKE her, then you aren't going to get heavy resistance.
There is nothing more satisfying than TAKING a woman who WANTS to be taken.
It's easy to do, too. Just be persistent, aggressive, and don't take no for an answer!! Light resistance = ok, heavy resistance = not ok. But if she is asking you to TAKE her, then you aren't going to get heavy resistance.
There is nothing more satisfying than TAKING a woman who WANTS to be taken.
taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
ALL women crave this, and this is precisely why women will TEST you.
They're testing the strength of your frame. They HOPE you pass, meaning that you're frame is stronger than her frame.
Think of it as evolutionary programming. Women who didn't have this "features" pretty much gave it up to everybody, and their kids didn't have much of a chance.
OTOH, women who historically put up a "fight" ensures their kids were fathered by aggressive types and would have more of a chance.
When a woman says she wants a man to "make her surrender" she's just putting words to an unconscious feeling that ALL women have, whether they know it or not.
They're testing the strength of your frame. They HOPE you pass, meaning that you're frame is stronger than her frame.
Think of it as evolutionary programming. Women who didn't have this "features" pretty much gave it up to everybody, and their kids didn't have much of a chance.
OTOH, women who historically put up a "fight" ensures their kids were fathered by aggressive types and would have more of a chance.
When a woman says she wants a man to "make her surrender" she's just putting words to an unconscious feeling that ALL women have, whether they know it or not.
Aristippus
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Make her surrender to what? First, women don't have a mental picture of Peewee Herman when they say this. They have a mental picture of a man they are attracted to. First, be attractive or find a woman that finds you attractive, then make it easy for her to surrender to her own desires.glass half full said:
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
disgustipated
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Whenever I've given a girl a real good thrashing in the bedroom, the truth always comes out. Stuff like, that's what girls really want, to be manhandled thrown around and fuuucked senseless. They've even told the dirty lil secrets of their girlfriends sex lives.....Tamara is sooo frustrated with Ron because he can't fuuuck her the way she wants it.....ROUGH and HARD. They wanna be dominated and that begins with resistance and then surrender. Not all the time, but often enough. When a gf is acting up, ONE of my self evaluating things I go to is am I not putting in down in the bedroom enough...why does she have energy to be a *****.
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Her: Make me surrender
You: Make me a sandwich
I realise women are gagging to be lead, especially among this sea of emasculated faggots who have let them down, if not lead by a man then lead by big daddy alfa government. But damn that sounds corny. I'd be tempted to say the above, and probably would if I actually heard a chick verbalize that.
Either that or "That's enough 50 shades of grey for you" or the old faithful....... "Gay".
Colossus
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Something I've learned from all my lays and relationships is that women LOVE to be TAKEN. They love to be USED for sex. I'm serious. Especially if they are highly attracted to you and they trust you....it's like all their submissive fantasies come out.
Things that we are told are "vulgar" or "degrading", like gagging them with your c0ck, cumming on their faces, rough hair pulling and aggressive sex----many of them actually love it. They just don't want to appear like sluts, so they shame this sort of thing publicly. But deep down....they all want a guy who totally manhandles them in bed.
Things that we are told are "vulgar" or "degrading", like gagging them with your c0ck, cumming on their faces, rough hair pulling and aggressive sex----many of them actually love it. They just don't want to appear like sluts, so they shame this sort of thing publicly. But deep down....they all want a guy who totally manhandles them in bed.
PlayHer Man
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glass half full said:
Who gives a f*ck :crackup: :crackup:
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.