glass half full
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I have seen and heard this so many times from women, what the hell do they mean when they say they want a man to "make her surrender?"
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
"make me surrender"
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
She wants you to play the game and pursue her in a dominant way. If you show dominance she will allow you to "catch" her.
You need to flip the script and with your dominance cause her to pursue you.
A girl like this is usually very submissive in nature.
You need to flip the script and with your dominance cause her to pursue you.
A girl like this is usually very submissive in nature.
Colossus
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I think it's SO hot when a girl talks like that.
It's easy to do, too. Just be persistent, aggressive, and don't take no for an answer!! Light resistance = ok, heavy resistance = not ok. But if she is asking you to TAKE her, then you aren't going to get heavy resistance.
There is nothing more satisfying than TAKING a woman who WANTS to be taken.
It's easy to do, too. Just be persistent, aggressive, and don't take no for an answer!! Light resistance = ok, heavy resistance = not ok. But if she is asking you to TAKE her, then you aren't going to get heavy resistance.
There is nothing more satisfying than TAKING a woman who WANTS to be taken.
taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
ALL women crave this, and this is precisely why women will TEST you.
They're testing the strength of your frame. They HOPE you pass, meaning that you're frame is stronger than her frame.
Think of it as evolutionary programming. Women who didn't have this "features" pretty much gave it up to everybody, and their kids didn't have much of a chance.
OTOH, women who historically put up a "fight" ensures their kids were fathered by aggressive types and would have more of a chance.
When a woman says she wants a man to "make her surrender" she's just putting words to an unconscious feeling that ALL women have, whether they know it or not.
They're testing the strength of your frame. They HOPE you pass, meaning that you're frame is stronger than her frame.
Think of it as evolutionary programming. Women who didn't have this "features" pretty much gave it up to everybody, and their kids didn't have much of a chance.
OTOH, women who historically put up a "fight" ensures their kids were fathered by aggressive types and would have more of a chance.
When a woman says she wants a man to "make her surrender" she's just putting words to an unconscious feeling that ALL women have, whether they know it or not.
Aristippus
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Make her surrender to what? First, women don't have a mental picture of Peewee Herman when they say this. They have a mental picture of a man they are attracted to. First, be attractive or find a woman that finds you attractive, then make it easy for her to surrender to her own desires.glass half full said:
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
disgustipated
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Whenever I've given a girl a real good thrashing in the bedroom, the truth always comes out. Stuff like, that's what girls really want, to be manhandled thrown around and fuuucked senseless. They've even told the dirty lil secrets of their girlfriends sex lives.....Tamara is sooo frustrated with Ron because he can't fuuuck her the way she wants it.....ROUGH and HARD. They wanna be dominated and that begins with resistance and then surrender. Not all the time, but often enough. When a gf is acting up, ONE of my self evaluating things I go to is am I not putting in down in the bedroom enough...why does she have energy to be a *****.
( . )( . )
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Her: Make me surrender
You: Make me a sandwich
I realise women are gagging to be lead, especially among this sea of emasculated faggots who have let them down, if not lead by a man then lead by big daddy alfa government. But damn that sounds corny. I'd be tempted to say the above, and probably would if I actually heard a chick verbalize that.
Either that or "That's enough 50 shades of grey for you" or the old faithful....... "Gay".
Colossus
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Something I've learned from all my lays and relationships is that women LOVE to be TAKEN. They love to be USED for sex. I'm serious. Especially if they are highly attracted to you and they trust you....it's like all their submissive fantasies come out.
Things that we are told are "vulgar" or "degrading", like gagging them with your c0ck, cumming on their faces, rough hair pulling and aggressive sex----many of them actually love it. They just don't want to appear like sluts, so they shame this sort of thing publicly. But deep down....they all want a guy who totally manhandles them in bed.
Things that we are told are "vulgar" or "degrading", like gagging them with your c0ck, cumming on their faces, rough hair pulling and aggressive sex----many of them actually love it. They just don't want to appear like sluts, so they shame this sort of thing publicly. But deep down....they all want a guy who totally manhandles them in bed.
PlayHer Man
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glass half full said:
Who gives a f*ck :crackup: :crackup:
( . )( . ) said:
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.