"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Made a bit of a mistake today

Mr_rogers

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Hey everyone,

Today I went with my dad to his physio therapy appointment like I do every couple days. I'd made up my mind that I'd get the number of the really cute secretary that works for the physio therapist.

Once my dad was settled in, I excused myself and took a minute in the hallway to compose myself. I wasn't completely **** scared, but I was a bit nervous (I figure it's pretty normal to be at least a little excited before asking for a girl's number, so I don't worry about it much). I went back in and started a conversation with her.

It took me less than a minute to lose that nervous feeling and settle right in. I mostly let her talk about herself, asking a few questions here and there to keep the conversation going. I cracked a few jokes and found out some basic information - she's 21, has been working at the physio clinic for three months, yadda yadda, she lives with her boyfriend in a nearby town only a few minutes away from the clinic.

I didn't let the news of her boyfriend phase me and was able to keep things going without slowing down.

By the end of it though, when my dad was ready to go I found myself rushed for time. I'd been enjoying having someone to talk to too much and hadn't left myself enough time to easily get her number. Because I felt pressure, I froze up and left without getting her number.

My question is - is there still a good chance that I can get her number this coming Friday? I figure it's a bit too early for her to have Friend-Zoned me since we've only just started talking, but it can never hurt to have input from one's fellow DJs.
 
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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MisterMcGee

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Stop the whole "i made an AFC mistake" you're either an AFC or you aren't. If your a cool guy, you can do AFCish things and they'll simply be 'sincere' 'kind' and whatever.
Regarding this, just chalk it up as something you realize you want to change about yourself. That's it. no need to drag 'afcness' into this
 

Mr_rogers

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MisterMcGee said:
Stop the whole "i made an AFC mistake" you're either an AFC or you aren't. If your a cool guy, you can do AFCish things and they'll simply be 'sincere' 'kind' and whatever.
Regarding this, just chalk it up as something you realize you want to change about yourself. That's it. no need to drag 'afcness' into this
Awesome. Thanks for the advice. :)
 
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