Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Danger said:How long together? And what is the level of seriousness (living together? etc,...)
Danger said:No invite is a red flag. A pretty major one actually for this particulary case. I would begin looking for new places to stay in preparation for leaving her. How long til the lease renewal? Please do not tell me they bought a place together.
I would also start seriously looking for other options and going out without her in the aim to gather more plates. It will make it easier to dump her. Bottom line, for me this is a "next" situation.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
IMO, Theres Danger ahead..... You have to remember the card females play. They deny everything! until you actually catch her with a c*ck in her mouth THEN and only then she will admit that she cheated but will turn it around and say its your fault because you neglected her etc,,. Ive heard multiple girls say this to each other "Dont admit anything!" or something similar.st_99 said:and guy she banged before you is also in that city and part of the same circle.
From a non paranoid non jealous perspective but simply from a respect perspective what are your thoughts?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
SecondHalf said:Pretty clear, poor sod!
ST, how's he taking it?
What's his gut telling him to do?
SH
Aristippus said:A woman that's crazy about you will not pull crap like this. A woman that's crazy about you will invite you to vacation with her. She won't put herself in a situation that could jeopardize her relationship, like going out of town to visit girls who are in the same social circle with a guy she used to have sex with.
I agree. And if the thread title were my gf won't let me go see my friends without her because my ex lives in the same city, that gf would be a jealous b!tch.Warrior74 said:Lots of worry about nothing. All you can do is either trust your girl until you have a reason not to, or lock her in a basement. Pick one. I ain't gonna have a heart attack stressing over what she's doing when she's with her girls. If I think she's cheating or get that vibe, cut her loose. Otherwise, carry on.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Anything is possible. Would I immediately accuse her of anything without having any proof? No. Would I trust her in such a manner that I would immediately assume she would never do such a thing? Absolutely not. I learned a while back NEVER to trust a female and not just simply for the sake of not trusting them. Not even women trust other women so that should be telling enough.st_99 said:and guy she banged before you is also in that city and part of the same circle.
From a non paranoid non jealous perspective but simply from a respect perspective what are your thoughts?
If the OP needs to ask then chances are that his intuition is telling him that something about this particular woman's behavior is off. It's easier for everyone else (male and female) to explain it off as just a bad case of jealousy.Danger said:I am saying it's a red flag because I have never known of a woman to do this thing when she has sufficient interest in her man.
She would want to show her man off to her friends, and definitely to her ex should he appear. What would be the point of her going away and not wanting her bf to go?
This is not about the ex living in the same city, the ex has the same circle of friends. There is a big difference here. And to tell the truth, separate vacations are a red flag. Never have I seen anything good come of them.
These are not the actions of a woman in love. These are the actions of a woman who does what she wants, when she wants. Such women are not built for relationships.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.