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Loop cycles between separation and honeymoon phases, is this relationship normal?

tesla8520

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I have known a friend since childhood.
He has been with the same woman for 20 years and today they are 46 years old, married and have children.

However, every 2-3 years the relationship enters a major crisis: the wife seems to question the relationship, distances herself emotionally and even wants to leave him. My friend, despite often receiving advice to end the relationship from us, and the internet too, does not; rather he distances himself and waits.
He says "it will pass, give it time".
In the meanwhile He could be offended, verbally abused, she can behave in a very rude way.

After 1-3 months, she changes her attitude and becomes very involved and affectionate again, like at the beginning of the relationship. Then they reconciles, become happy again and often establish a new important goal (cohabitation, children, marriage, etc.).

This pattern has repeated itself several times over the years. My friend claims that his wife has some difficulties, but he does not interpret these episodes as a lack of respect, because he still feels loved.

Since this couple have many things in their life, like 3 kids, a marriage, many friends, good job positions, we wonder if we coudl still take them as an example, and if the cycle is underpinned by the “honeymoon” phase that follows each crisis, and if this type of behavior is relatively normal in ltrs or could be considered a sign of a problematic or toxic dynamic.

What's your experience on this?
 

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My visceral read:

He's simulateneously comfortable and terrified, thus chooses to remain, rather than being courageous and venturing out

This happens in MANY areas of our lives
 
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My visceral read:

He's simulateneousl6 comfortable and terrified, thus chooses to remain, rather being courageous and venturing out

This happens in MANY areas of our lives
Dude they have 3 kids and they have issues less than 10% of the time. Where does he sound "terrified"?
 

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Kinda sounds like the wife is managing her boredom, inherent in most marriages

If the down times start lasting for more than 1-3 months I'd be more concerned
 

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Where does he sound "terrified"?
Based on the limited info, I suspect he's both comfortable(having been with this one chick since his 20s)AND scared to end things, even though a wide variety of outside observers believe the marriage has become unhealthy
 

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What about her? Could it be she's too scared to end things?

Anyway, I was just thinking.
You're a 46-year-old man, in a relationship with a woman for 20 years, and you have three children, a mortgage, a house, and other obligations with her.
If you separate, you've lost a lot.

I could even understand that. So he prefers to take the "disrespect" and then sells it as "Hey, look! I was right! We waited, we reconciled, and now we're stronger than before" (it really happens).
 

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@tesla8520 "If you separate, you've lost a lot"

Continuing to grin like a fool through all of this sh-t, even through he's deeply dissatisfied with the shape his life is currently in, is going to be far more costly in the long term

Growth and evolution rarely, if ever, occurs without blood, figurative and sometimes physical
 

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Its called she is fvcking someone else for a few months and then it doesn't work out and she has to come back.

Tell your friend to get a damn clue.
 

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Its called she is fvcking someone else for a few months and then it doesn't work out and she has to come back.
That's what we thought.

Or maybe she's figured out that she can do these things, just screw someone outside, create a bit of drama, and come back to him with love bombing.
If a woman understands she can get away with it, she'll do it her whole life.
She's unlikely to leave a man that stupid.
 
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